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Recently I read your sig line:

“I would never have been sealed to Joseph had I known it was anything more than ceremony. I was young, and they deceived me, by saying the salvation of our whole family depended on it.” Helen Kimball - (“Mormon Polygamy: A History”, Richard S. Van Wagoner, p. 53.)

I never knew this.

I googled it, refined those matches and sent them along with the above quote to a friend who has insisted Smith only had these girls sealed to them.

He has yet to reply.

Thanks again Merc, for being here bro.

Helen Mar Kimball was obviously a bitter apostate when she said this AND it was recounted years and years after the fact when memories tend to be unreliable AND this quote is from a second-hand account AND it still doesn't say or even imply that she had sex with Smith (which we know she didn't).

Right?

Boaz & Lidia wrote:Recently I read your sig line:

“I would never have been sealed to Joseph had I known it was anything more than ceremony. I was young, and they deceived me, by saying the salvation of our whole family depended on it.” Helen Kimball - (“Mormon Polygamy: A History”, Richard S. Van Wagoner, p. 53.)

I never knew this.

I googled it, refined those matches and sent them along with the above quote to a friend who has insisted Smith only had these girls sealed to them.

He has yet to reply.

Thanks again Merc, for being here bro.

Just doing my part.

Boaz & Lidia wrote:He has yet to reply.

Let us know if and when he does, will ya?

That quote does not exist in page 53 of Van Wagoner's book on Polygamy.

That quote exists on page 294 of Van Wagoner's book on Sidney Rigdon, and it is a third-hand account from a Catherine Lewis. Lewis joined the church and then apostatized, writing a famous expose of the temple endowment ceremony.

I could write a book on Van Wagoner's excesses.

Helen wrote her own book on the subject, and never mentioned anything like this.

But, go on using the quote. It makes you look informed.

Mercury wrote:

Boaz & Lidia wrote:
Thanks again Merc, for being here bro.

Just doing my part.

If I remember right, this is about the time Boaz pulls his shirt over his head and announces that he is The Great Cornholio.

rcrocket wrote:That quote does not exist in page 53 of Van Wagoner's book on Polygamy.

That quote exists on page 294 of Van Wagoner's book on Sidney Rigdon, and it is a third-hand account from a Catherine Lewis. Lewis joined the church and then apostatized, writing a famous expose of the temple endowment ceremony.

I could write a book on Van Wagoner's excesses.

Helen wrote her own book on the subject, and never mentioned anything like this.

But, go on using the quote. It makes you look informed.

Don't these "hearsays", "inuendos", freak you out?
There's absolutely no proof Joseph Smith banged any of these women.
Besides, doesn't Book of Mormon say Joseph Smith was the most important human being ever lived after Christ?
I wish these antis stop tarnishing the pristine name of our Prophet.
They don't know the grave danger of hell they are facing. Even Brigham Young said so; No one will enter
The kingdom of heaven w'out the consent of Joseph Smith.
He alone holds the keys of Kingdom .

solomarineris wrote: Even Brigham Young said so; No one will enter
The kingdom of heaven w'out the consent of Joseph Smith.
He alone holds the keys of Kingdom .

One more reason to avoid it like the plague. *shudder*

rcrocket wrote:That quote does not exist in page 53 of Van Wagoner's book on Polygamy.

That quote exists on page 294 of Van Wagoner's book on Sidney Rigdon, and it is a third-hand account from a Catherine Lewis. Lewis joined the church and then apostatized, writing a famous expose of the temple endowment ceremony.

I could write a book on Van Wagoner's excesses.

Helen wrote her own book on the subject, and never mentioned anything like this.

But, go on using the quote. It makes you look informed.

The thing is Bob, I frankly cannot trust you.

Anyone else want to verify this besides the assclown Crockett?

Mercury wrote:

rcrocket wrote:That quote does not exist in page 53 of Van Wagoner's book on Polygamy.

That quote exists on page 294 of Van Wagoner's book on Sidney Rigdon, and it is a third-hand account from a Catherine Lewis. Lewis joined the church and then apostatized, writing a famous expose of the temple endowment ceremony.

I could write a book on Van Wagoner's excesses.

Helen wrote her own book on the subject, and never mentioned anything like this.

But, go on using the quote. It makes you look informed.

The thing is Bob, I frankly cannot trust you.

Anyone else want to verify this besides the assclown Crockett?

Why can't you just read the book you quoted from and confirm the absence of the quote yourself?