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LDS Missionary wrote:http://www.whymormons.net/2008/05/zone-conference-1-of-6.html

Here's more streaming audio and transcription from the now famous 'masturbation' Zone Conference from the France Toulouse Mission.

In this particular part of the Zone Conference, notice how the Mission President lays into his missionaries.

Ah, memories of the mission.

Sethbag wrote:Jonas, just watch this YouTube link of the fourth segment of the audio from this zone conference. The MP starts hammering them about masturbation within like 10 or 15 seconds of the start of that link. And he segues from there to the internet.

Right near the end of that segment he implies that this is the reason they're only baptising a couple of people per month. That's right. If only the evil Mormon Missionaries could stop playing with their penises, French people would be attracted to joining the LDS Church. Uhuh.

Now, we're not looking for numbers, brethren, we're looking for converts. But we're not converting very many people. So, we're scratching our heads and we're saying, why?

Why are we not bringing the amount of people that the Church [inaudible]. How can a set of fine young missionaries, like you are, and I mean that, seriously [inaudible].

But I'm absolutely concerned when I look at the numbers that you report to me, and I've got no Book of Mormons placed, I have no discussions. I see some of you working 6, 8, 10, 12, hours. There should be about 60 hours during the week. I think this last average we were in the low 40's. Where are the extra 20 hours? [inaudible]

It's impossible for me to understand how some of you can go out and not teach a discussion. Not talk to someone, and I don't know how you're tallying, and that's a whole different ball game, I'm not even going to go there.

I don't know how two missionaries of your calibre can go out and not place a Book of Mormon every day. I don't know. What are you doing? I have no clue.

Neither does the Area Presidency.

Neither does Elder Ballard.

Now we're teaching discussions. Last week, in the mission, we taught 460 some discussions. You had, uh, about 60 people at church. But there was no - the next step is not happening, brethren. We're just not doing it.

Now, the only thing I can say is we need to look inward.

It's us.

This is the Lord's mission.

But we have to put ourselves in the position where He is obligated.

Now if you take down a word, you write that down. OBLIGATED. And that comes from the 82nd section in the 10th verse. 'When you do what I say, I am bound.' Is that not a true principle? 'And when you don't, ye have no promise.'

Now the only thing that I can conclude, brethren, is we are not doing every day, 24 hours a day, what He says. We're not. And it has come to light, unfortunately, over the last several weeks, some activities have come to my knowledge in the mission which are just abhorred. Absolutely abhorred....

Now, let's just get ugly here if I can. It's not ugly. But I want to talk to you about masturbation, okay?

Let's just be quite frank. That is a problem in the mission. It is.

Some of you have been smart enough and wise enough to come forth and talk to me about that. And we'll do anything in the world to help you overcome that.

Some of you have not. Some of you think that you can overcome that by yourself. And [think that] you don't need to say anything to anyone. And it's okay. And you're okay. Brother, that is a lie. It's [not audible].

Internet. Now I want to read you some scriptures about self abuse here. The brethren call that self abuse instead of masturbation. It's a little softer word. It's more [not audible].

But brethren if you have got problems with that let's get rid of it because it will keep you from getting the blessings as a missionary.

The minute that happens, my young friends, the Spirit of the Lord is gone ::claps hand:: like that. Period. I don't care who you are or what you do it's gone ::claps hand:: like that. Boom.

And I know that there's at least 30-40% of missionaries in this mission that have that problem because that's the church average. It's amazing. Of missionaries full time. Satan is wise and I'll tell you why he's wise in just a second.
Let me talk to you about the internet. Every now and again I get e-mails from missionaries who have gone home. And we love them. And a lot of them are doing very well.

Some of them are struggling [with masturbation]. But not only do they send me e-mails they send you... e-mails... also. Now what's the instruction for e-mails, brethren? What web site do you use?

::Missionary Group:: My LDS MAIL.

::Mission President:: My LDS MAIL.

Why in the world am I getting missionaries that are 'serving' right now with hotmail dot com and e-mail sent to Elder so and so at hotmail dot com or at yahoo dot com? Why am I getting that? Why? Why do I have missionaries that go to the internet place and click on pornographic sites? Why do I have that? Where's your brain? Where is your love of obedience? Brethren if you can not stay on MY LDS mail dot com, period period period period period then don't use it. Don't use the internet.

A missionary called me two days ago.

'President, problem with self abuse.'

Okay. We had talked about it. Talked and talked and talked.

And Elder? Tell me what happened. How did Satan get to you? What tempted you?

'Well, President, I'm on the internet, and I decided to check an internet site from my old address to see if any of my friends wrote me.'

Now brethren, I can tell you these pop ups are just absolutely incredible. Incredible. They are so gross and so pornographic, and you don't even have to be on any site whatsoever to get them to come. We had one in our house the other day that just absolutely blew me away.

Wonder why. Checked the [inaudible] e-mail. It was just the most incredible thing I've ever seen. Absolutely filthy.

So what happens?

This elder decides to check his other 'OTHER' website and, 'Say, Elder, WHAT other web site do you have as missionaries?'

And guess what happens? He hits a pornographic site and he has to go home and masturbate. Now give me a break, brethren. Give me a break. Why are we having two baptisms a month in the France Toulouse Mission? Look into it. Now, I apologize for being upset, but dog gone it [inaudible?] we're not going to let him have it.

I've got plenty of scriptures if those of you want to know if the Lord talks about self abuse. Let me just give them to you and we'll take time to read them here. You all will study these. Romans 6:12. Romans 8:5-8. Romans 8:13.

Analytics wrote:This is so bizzare. It just seems so sick that the church actually keeps statistics on the number of missionaries who "self-abuse" church-wide.