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Mormon Richard Turley: Brigham did not order MMM

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 2:06 pm
by _Infymus
From the SLC Trib: http://origin.sltrib.com/ci_9378012

Richard Turley was one of three people hired by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to examine the massacre, including the role of the former LDS Church president.

"there is not enough evidence to conclude that Brigham Young ordered the Mountain Meadows Massacre in 1857 that killed 120 Arkansas emigrants"

Turley, the church's assistant historian, spoke Saturday at the annual meeting of the Mormon History Association.

After reviewing all of the evidence, Turley concludes that Young didn't order the massacre in southern Utah.

He says the three authors hired to do the project worked with dozens of researchers and examined documents from archives across the country looking for any evidence related to the incident.


Except their own vaults, of course. And of course Turley will now rake in oodles of cash from Mormons by publishing his findings in a book.

Never trust a Mormon who has been hired by the Mormon Cult to come to preconceived conclusions.

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 2:37 pm
by _Inconceivable
At very least I would have to describe Young's involvement as contributory negligence.

How could anyone not see that he had made an effort to obstruct justice?

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 2:56 pm
by _beastie
I got this quote from the MAD thread on the same topic:

"He did not order it. Instead, local (church) leaders in the charged environment of the Utah War made a series of horrible decisions" that "led to the murder of 120 men, women and children, not one of whom deserved to die," Turley said.


http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index. ... opic=35821

Just what created that "charged environment"? Certainly the US gov't contributed to it, but equally culpable were church leaders who engaged in outrageous, violent rhetoric.

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 3:25 pm
by _Mercury
So if I get carjacked and then murdered, the person driving around in my car is not involved? uhhhuh. sure.

Young was seen driving around in one of the Fanchers shiny new wagons.

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 1:43 am
by _Trevor
I seem to recall that there is a crucial page missing from the journal of someone who met with Brigham Young before the massacre. Does anyone remember more of the details?

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 1:46 am
by _rcrocket
Mercury wrote:So if I get carjacked and then murdered, the person driving around in my car is not involved? uhhhuh. sure.

Young was seen driving around in one of the Fanchers shiny new wagons.


What is your reference?

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 2:00 pm
by _Bryan Inks
Why the hell in a thread about the MMM, does this image appear as a google ad?

http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pa ... gR1mEoyDEk

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 2:54 pm
by _LifeOnaPlate
Mercury wrote:So if I get carjacked and then murdered, the person driving around in my car is not involved? uhhhuh. sure.

Young was seen driving around in one of the Fanchers shiny new wagons.


Can I get a reference on that?

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 2:59 pm
by _antishock8
CFR!!! CFR!!! I DEMAND A CFR!!! CFR!!! lol... assholes...

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 4:16 pm
by _Boaz & Lidia
Regardless of facts pointing to a smoking gun, Brigham's actions after the murders were not very becoming of a supposed prophet who spoke with God.

Isn't having Turley doing research to prove BY was not involved like the Nazis hiring one of their own to investigate whether Hitler was involved in the Holocaust?