Gay LDS group Urge Church Not to Fight CA Court Ruling

Post by **_RAJ** » Thu May 29, 2008 8:35 pm

http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,700229872,00.html

Gay LDS urge church not to fight ruling
California will allow same-sex marriages beginning June 17

By Jennifer Dobner
Associated Press
Published: Thursday, May 29, 2008 12:04 a.m. MDT

A support group for gay Mormons urged church leaders Wednesday to stay on the sidelines after the California Supreme Court said same-sex marriage there is legal.

The church, which teaches that gay sex is a sin, has expressed disappointment in the recent ruling. Some critics and conservative groups want to overturn it through a constitutional amendment.

In a statement Wednesday, the executive director of Affirmation said he hopes church leaders would not "use their energies and their funds" to overturn a ruling that affirms the worth of families or meddle in politics that demonizes gays.

"Rather work with us to counsel and assist individuals and families who have been devastated by the church's teachings that have caused family members to reject their children who are gay," Olin Thomas wrote.

"We encourage LDS leaders to find a new focus by preaching and living a Gospel of love and respect toward all peoples and all families," he said of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

California, meanwhile, issued a directive Wednesday that said same-sex couples will be able to wed in the state beginning June 17.

The state said it chose June 17 because the state Supreme Court has until the day before to decide whether to grant a stay of its May 15 ruling legalizing gay marriage...

Post by **_The Nehor** » Thu May 29, 2008 8:44 pm

Prophecy: LDS Church will ignore said Gay LDS group.

Post by **_RAJ** » Thu May 29, 2008 8:49 pm

The Nehor wrote:Prophecy: LDS Church will ignore said Gay LDS group.

You're probably right. But it will give them something more to talk about during their Aug. 11th meeting.

Post by **_skippy the dead** » Thu May 29, 2008 8:53 pm

RAJ wrote:
The Nehor wrote:Prophecy: LDS Church will ignore said Gay LDS group.

You're probably right. But it will give them something more to talk about during their Aug. 11th meeting.

As with the "request", the Aug 11 meeting will likely be a one way affair. I'm still not even sure why the church agreed to the meeting (although the scheduling of it months away was quite telling on its import to the leadership).

Post by **_RAJ** » Thu May 29, 2008 9:01 pm

As with the "request", the Aug 11 meeting will likely be a one way affair. I'm still not even sure why the church agreed to the meeting (although the scheduling of it months away was quite telling on its import to the leadership)

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It seems clear, the church is attempting to modernize, however slowly and reluctantly

Post by **_Bond...James Bond** » Fri May 30, 2008 3:23 am

RAJ wrote:It seems clear, the church is attempting to modernize, however slowly and reluctantly

In a hundred years the powers that be might even be willing to shake hands with a gay person on a public street during daylight hours.

Post by **_skippy the dead** » Fri May 30, 2008 3:24 am

RAJ wrote:
As with the "request", the Aug 11 meeting will likely be a one way affair. I'm still not even sure why the church agreed to the meeting (although the scheduling of it months away was quite telling on its import to the leadership)
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It seems clear, the church is attempting to modernize, however slowly and reluctantly

Clear? Not from where I'm standing.

Post by **_Gazelam** » Fri May 30, 2008 3:28 am

Is there some way possible to take this group of "gay Mormons", who already understand that they are damned, to commit some type of group suicide and stop embarassing us?

Post by **_skippy the dead** » Fri May 30, 2008 4:35 am

Gazelam wrote:Is there some way possible to take this group of "gay Mormons", who already understand that they are damned, to commit some type of group suicide and stop embarassing us?

Oh that's nice.

Post by **_Sethbag** » Fri May 30, 2008 8:26 am

ROFL. Damned. Damned? DAMNED!? They know they are damned? What is this, the Dark Ages? What is this "damned" of which you speak, Gaz?

There is no such thing as damnation. That's an antiquated and obsolete, false notion left over from a time when we didn't know any better. Now we do.

While there may not be such a thing as actual damnation, there is such a thing as acting like a prick to another human being. That's real, and it happens all the time. I vote we all agree to stop acting like pricks towards gay people (insert joke about how they might actually like that here).