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Mormon Child Abuse
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:19 pm
by _antishock8
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4584766a11.html
"... also admitted an indecent act with a bull mastiff dog."
I wonder how widespread child sexual abuse is within the Mormon priesthood? I wonder what steps are being taken to prevent this from happening in the future? Background checks? Anything?
Re: Mormon Child Abuse
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:38 pm
by _solomarineris
antishock8 wrote:http://www.stuff.co.nz/4584766a11.html
"... also admitted an indecent act with a bull mastiff dog."
I wonder how widespread child sexual abuse is within the Mormon priesthood? I wonder what steps are being taken to prevent this from happening in the future? Background checks? Anything?
The story is gross, no doubt.
Your questions are asinine, annoying and nobody will answer them.
What do you expect; Church hold a press conference, a special tabernacle meeting
on the subject?
What steps exactly proposing that needs to be taken?
Like separating victim from perpetrator?
Re: Mormon Child Abuse
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:41 pm
by _antishock8
solomarineris wrote:antishock8 wrote:http://www.stuff.co.nz/4584766a11.html
"... also admitted an indecent act with a bull mastiff dog."
I wonder how widespread child sexual abuse is within the Mormon priesthood? I wonder what steps are being taken to prevent this from happening in the future? Background checks? Anything?
The story is gross, no doubt.
Your questions are asinine, annoying and nobody will answer them.
What do you expect; Church hold a press conference, a special tabernacle meeting
on the subject?
What steps exactly proposing that needs to be taken?
Like separating victim from perpetrator?
I'm not sure which question to take seriously, but I will tell you this. I have two daughters that spend their Summers in Utah. They're forced or coerced to go to the Mormon church when in Utah. So, yes, in fact I would like to know if the Mormon church is taking any measures, whatsoever, to ensure their safety when they're away from me. It's extremely unsettling to me that my kids could be alone, with an adult male, at any point, and the only prevention against predation is "the Spirit".
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:42 pm
by _Yoda
I think that background checks should be done on all primary teachers, and any Sunday School teachers where youth are involved.
I know that in primary, they do not allow males to teach classes alone. The classes need to be team taught with the spouse. They are also in the process of mandating windows on all of the classroom doors.
Re: Mormon Child Abuse
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:10 pm
by _Jason Bourne
antishock8 wrote:http://www.stuff.co.nz/4584766a11.html
"... also admitted an indecent act with a bull mastiff dog."
I wonder how widespread child sexual abuse is within the Mormon priesthood? I wonder what steps are being taken to prevent this from happening in the future? Background checks? Anything?
In my experience it is not wide spread. In my experience when there is such and offender they get no where near kids. No teaching, no HT assignments, nothing even after they may have gone through a repentance process. If a member is disciplined for child abuse their record is notated with this forever so leader know and can act accordingly.
Re: Mormon Child Abuse
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:18 pm
by _Yoda
Jason Bourne wrote:antishock8 wrote:http://www.stuff.co.nz/4584766a11.html
"... also admitted an indecent act with a bull mastiff dog."
I wonder how widespread child sexual abuse is within the Mormon priesthood? I wonder what steps are being taken to prevent this from happening in the future? Background checks? Anything?
In my experience it is not wide spread. In my experience when there is such and offender they get no where near kids. No teaching, no HT assignments, nothing even after they may have gone through a repentance process. If a member is disciplined for child abuse their record is notated with this forever so leader know and can act accordingly.
So, Jason, since you've been in the bishopric, let me ask you....Are specific background checks performed before primary workers and youth Sunday School teachers are called? Is there talk to incorporate this?
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:38 pm
by _Scottie
So, is a religious body required to turn a perp in? Doesn't ecclesiastical confidentiality say that a religious confession can't be broken?
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:29 pm
by _antishock8
http://mormonalliance.org/casereports/v ... 1/v1p1.htm
That's an interesting compilation regarding this issue.
Re: Mormon Child Abuse
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:17 pm
by _Jason Bourne
So, Jason, since you've been in the bishopric, let me ask you....Are specific background checks performed before primary workers and youth Sunday School teachers are called? Is there talk to incorporate this?
No and no, at least in my experience. However, I think we should do this and in fact it seems there are easy resources available to do this these days. But I think you have to disclose it. I know in my company we do background checks on potential employees but we let them know about it and put it as a condition of employment.
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:19 pm
by _Jason Bourne
Scottie wrote:So, is a religious body required to turn a perp in? Doesn't ecclesiastical confidentiality say that a religious confession can't be broken?
It depends on the state. SLC had a hot line number that bishops and SPs are supposed to use when faced with abuse type issues. They call fgor help in understanding the legal requirements for their respective state and to get guidance on what they should and should not say and do.