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At MAD, they are womping on Martha again. http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index.php?s=cb979c72069e60c017950c4deb098eed&showtopic=36530 This is based on a write upin the Guardian from a book lecture in England: http://lifeandhealth.guardian.co.uk/women/story/0,,2289181,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront

Apparently there are a total of eight papers discrediting Martha at FAIR and FARMS.

http://www.fairlds.org/Reviews/Rvw200503.html
http://www.fairlds.org/Reviews/Rvw200501.html
http://www.fairlds.org/Reviews/Rvw200504.html
http://www.fairlds.org/Reviews/Rvw200502.html
http://www.fairlds.org/Reviews/Rvw200506.html
http://farms.BYU.edu/display.php?table=review&id=587
http://farms.BYU.edu/display.php?table=review&id=570
http://farms.BYU.edu/display.php?table=review&id=569

I would imagine after this last story, at least one more paper will be commissioned. I would like to see Coggins write it. (hint to Dr. Peterson).

Well, good heavens, Beck is a flat footed fraud , long since revealed as such, who came into the Oprahfied media world looking for her fifteen seconds. She received it. She was then exposed for what she was. Now she's back for another fifteen.

Move along, nothing to see here.

Droopy wrote:Well, good heavens, Beck is a flat footed fraud , long since revealed as such, who came into the Oprahfied media world looking for here fifteen seconds. She received it. She was then exposed for what she was. Now she's back for another fifteen.
Move along, nothing to see here.

Well Droopey,
You got it right, for once....
If you could only apply the critical thinking on Joseph Smith's claims....

You should be that smart....

moksha wrote:I would imagine after this last story, at least one more paper will be commissioned.

Maybe. Maybe not.

I think she's basically over and done with. Very few seem to take her story seriously.

That's probably why she's peddling it to a new audience now, one that's perhaps less disposed to question it.

The only new wrinkle here is that I think she's invented a new version of how her alleged vaginal scarring was discovered. That might be worth noting. But I could be mistaken.

Forgive me, but--not being female myself--isn't vaginal scarring pretty common for anyone who has given birth naturally?

Plus, I'm a bit skeptical about the whole "recovered memories" phenomenon. I have EXTREMELY VIVID memories of every injustice I had to endure as a child, so something that much more heinous would, methinks, be seared into my memory banks forever, had it happened to me.

Daniel Peterson wrote:

moksha wrote:I would imagine after this last story, at least one more paper will be commissioned.

Maybe. Maybe not.

I think she's basically over and done with. Very few seem to take her story seriously.

Really? Then why all of the commotion on yonder MA&D board and Fair/Farms? Why not let the sheep find out for themselves?


Regardless, it is just another public moment that the word Mormon is used in a bad light. Works for me!

Dr. Shades wrote:Forgive me, but--not being female myself--isn't vaginal scarring pretty common for anyone who has given birth naturally?

NO

So, how common is it?

If someone has vaginal scarring, is it always indicative of non-consentual penetration?

Dr. Shades wrote:So, how common is it?

If someone has vaginal scarring, is it always indicative of non-consensual penetration?

One would imagine that the tremendous stretching during childbirth could easy result in some degree of tearing and its secondary scar formation.

Beck in her own words: http://www.leavingthesaints.com/settingrecord.htm