DCP/Robert Spencer Debate Freedom Fest 2008- Any links?

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DCP/Robert Spencer Debate Freedom Fest 2008- Any links?

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I'm curious about their exchange. I'd also like to see the exchange between Hitchens and Dinesh D'Souza. I re-watched the 2007 exchange and it seemed to me D'Souza was clearly outmatched.

Any pointers in the right direction would be appreciated.
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http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=P ... geId=69456

Fine. I'll just post links to the various debates until something comes available on You Tube.

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Why I love Hitchens:


Barely containing his mirth, after hearing D'Souza's argument, [Hitchens] began with, "That was terrible, Dinesh."
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From that article:

Robert Spencer, who earlier in the day debated a Middle East studies professor on the topic, "Islam: Peaceful or Violent," was among the impressed.


Poor DCP doesn't even get his name mentioned? He's just A middle east studies professor? lol.
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Who Knows wrote:From that article:

Robert Spencer, who earlier in the day debated a Middle East studies professor on the topic, "Islam: Peaceful or Violent," was among the impressed.


Poor DCP doesn't even get his name mentioned? He's just A middle east studies professor? lol.


Yeah, he's one of several. Why mention him by name? You wouldn't know him anyways.

This slight is especially fitting, given DCP's tactic of projecting erudition by dropping names that most of us have never heard of. (This is one of the things I had in mind when I said he was pedantic.)
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Who Knows wrote:From that article:

Robert Spencer, who earlier in the day debated a Middle East studies professor on the topic, "Islam: Peaceful or Violent," was among the impressed.


Poor DCP doesn't even get his name mentioned? He's just A middle east studies professor? lol.


He's been reduced to the status of the Washington Generals.
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John Larsen wrote:He's been reduced to the status of the Washington Generals.


At least people know who the Washington Generals are. ;)
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From Robert Spencer's Blog:

As it happens, on Friday at FreedomFest I debated Professor Daniel C. Peterson, author of Muhammad: Prophet of God. Dr. Peterson is a good man and a careful scholar, and picking up a copy of his book I noticed that on pages 167-168 he tells the story of Muhammad and his daughter-in-law Zaynab in much the way I have told it in this week's Blogging the Qur'an installment, as well as in my book The Truth About Muhammad: Muhammad "was in love with" Zaynab; his adopted son Zayd offered "to yield up his wife to the Prophet if the Prophet so desired," but Muhammad refused; Muhammad then received a divine revelation and announced, "Who will go to Zaynab, and tell her of the good news that God has given her to me in marriage?"; and now "Zayd, despite Muhammad's formal adoption of him, was not to be considered Muhammad's son."

So apparently Professor Peterson has descended with me to the level of "shameless lies."

The author of the Foreword to Professor Peterson's book says that he "has approached his work as the consummate academic." He says that the book itself is "admirable" and is a "welcome addition to the field of religious and Islamic studies," and concludes: "I recommend this work most highly."

The author of those words? Khaleel Mohammed.
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moksha wrote:From Robert Spencer's Blog:

As it happens, on Friday at FreedomFest I debated Professor Daniel C. Peterson, author of Muhammad: Prophet of God. Dr. Peterson is a good man and a careful scholar, and picking up a copy of his book I noticed that on pages 167-168 he tells the story of Muhammad and his daughter-in-law Zaynab in much the way I have told it in this week's Blogging the Qur'an installment, as well as in my book The Truth About Muhammad: Muhammad "was in love with" Zaynab; his adopted son Zayd offered "to yield up his wife to the Prophet if the Prophet so desired," but Muhammad refused; Muhammad then received a divine revelation and announced, "Who will go to Zaynab, and tell her of the good news that God has given her to me in marriage?"; and now "Zayd, despite Muhammad's formal adoption of him, was not to be considered Muhammad's son."

So apparently Professor Peterson has descended with me to the level of "shameless lies."

The author of the Foreword to Professor Peterson's book says that he "has approached his work as the consummate academic." He says that the book itself is "admirable" and is a "welcome addition to the field of religious and Islamic studies," and concludes: "I recommend this work most highly."

The author of those words? Khaleel Mohammed.


Nice words, indeed, about Dr. Peterson--and quite sincere, I'd suppose.

Unfortunately, it seems like he was just using DCP to hurl a zinger at Khaleel Mohammed. Those two (Spencer and Mohammed) don't play well with each other.
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cksalmon wrote:
Nice words, indeed, about Dr. Peterson--and quite sincere, I'd suppose.

Unfortunately, it seems like he was just using DCP to hurl a zinger at Khaleel Mohammed. Those two (Spencer and Mohammed) don't play well with each other.


In that case, Dr. Peterson should have made an obscure reference to Mr. Scratch.
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