No, it cannot be ethical to hire out your services to find treasure through magic. My reasoning is that if you need money so badly, and you really can find treasure through magical divination, then you could satisfy your own needs by finding said treasure for yourself. The only person who would attempt to make this kind of living is a scam artist. QED
Well, maybe he really could see treasures through magic, but was altruistic enough to want others to have the booty! You know, kind of like phone psychics who tell other people the winning lottery numbers.
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Well aparently it is ethical to look into glass balls and tarot cards to see into the future and stuff, so why not? Maybe Ethical was the wrong word to use, it is ethical because a person trully believes it and no harm is being done. Maybe 'logical' would have swayed my opinion.
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It depends on whether you honestly believed it or not. It also may depend on the pressure and guidance that your father gives. Age and maturity come into play. Culture as well. And even if Smith's behavior was not ethical does this particular activity disqualify him from ever being called of God? What man or woman is perfect?
But Jason, if I believe that I have a Tree Fairy location device that never finds Tree Fairies it is NOT ethical to sell a service that never finds tree fairies.
You are a businessman, would you sell something to a customer you know does not work but still believe in?
No I would not. But maybe he believed is could work? Who knows. It is a much different culture and time we live in.
JonasS wrote:Well aparently it is ethical to look into glass balls and tarot cards to see into the future and stuff, so why not? Maybe Ethical was the wrong word to use, it is ethical because a person trully believes it and no harm is being done. Maybe 'logical' would have swayed my opinion.
Great point, pirate!
Would you consider the modern fortune tellers unethical?
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JonasS wrote:Well aparently it is ethical to look into glass balls and tarot cards to see into the future and stuff, so why not? Maybe Ethical was the wrong word to use, it is ethical because a person trully believes it and no harm is being done. Maybe 'logical' would have swayed my opinion.
Great point, pirate!
Would you consider the modern fortune tellers unethical?
That is the exact same thing as the poll question.
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The Dude wrote:No, it cannot be ethical to hire out your services to find treasure through magic. My reasoning is that if you need money so badly, and you really can find treasure through magical divination, then you could satisfy your own needs by finding said treasure for yourself. The only person who would attempt to make this kind of living is a scam artist. QED
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JonasS wrote:Well aparently it is ethical to look into glass balls and tarot cards to see into the future and stuff, so why not? Maybe Ethical was the wrong word to use, it is ethical because a person trully believes it and no harm is being done. Maybe 'logical' would have swayed my opinion.
Great point, pirate!
Would you consider the modern fortune tellers unethical?
I thought I answered that, I think the ones that talk crud and scam people are unethical but if people are stupid enough to believe it then no its not unethical because we all have the knowledge that fortune tellers are often liers and we still pay. It would only be unethical if the fortune teller knew they were a scam and the punter thought it wasn't a scam and believed for sure completely that is was true. But the fortune teller would have to KNOW for sure that they are a scam.
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In the simplest terms, only a con man would try to make a buck by charging for a magical treasure-finding service. In the 19th century, rural New England was a hotbed of this activity, while in modern times, these dubious schemes mainly originate from Nigeria.
There are endless ways to rationalize a scheme as "ethical". Even if the con man doesn't believe in his own powers, it might just represent a lack of faith in himself, however he really does have the power and it works as long as other people believe in him. Therefore it might be deemed ethical, and tragically appealing.
Even if the magical claim is complete bunk from all perspectives, as long as the net result of the counterfeit activity is increasing goodness in the world, you might see it as ethical. The LDS church was founded through this man's dubious scheme and millions have experienced clean family living because of it, and so it must have been in accordance with divine ethical standards that we may grasp only fleetingly with our mortal minds. "It is a much different culture and time we live in." Indeed, who are we to apply 21st century human ethics.
If we open the door so wide, then it becomes meaningless to ask if a magical treasure-finding service is "ethical". I think the clearer question to ask is "would you pay for this service?"
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Well, whether I think it is ethical or not, the man was charged with a crime.
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It depends on whether you honestly believed it or not. It also may depend on the pressure and guidance that your father gives. Age and maturity come into play. Culture as well. And even if Smith's behavior was not ethical does this particular activity disqualify him from ever being called of God? What man or woman is perfect?
But Jason, if I believe that I have a Tree Fairy location device that never finds Tree Fairies it is NOT ethical to sell a service that never finds tree fairies.
You are a businessman, would you sell something to a customer you know does not work but still believe in?
No I would not. But maybe he believed is could work? Who knows. It is a much different culture and time we live in.
What treasure did he find through putting a rock into a hat previously? The slippery language you attempt to use is getting tired.
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