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Did Joseph Smith violate the 1833 anti bigamy law?
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:17 am
by _collegeterrace
In marrying the numerous additional wives while living in Nauvoo Illinois, did Joseph Smith break the following law?
"Sec 121. Bigamy consists in the having of two wives or two husbands at one and the same time, knowing that the former husband or wife is still alive.
If any person or persons within this State, being married, or who shall hereafter marry, do at any time marry any person or persons, the former husband or wife being alive, the person so offending shall, on conviction thereof, be punished by a fine, not exceeding one thousand dollars, and imprisoned in the penitentiary, not exceeding two years.
It shall not be necessary to prove either of the said marriages by the register or certificate thereof, or other record evidence; but the same may be proved by such evidence as is admissible to prove a marriage in other cases, and when such second marriage shall have taken place without this state, cohabitation in this state after such second marriage shall be deemed the commission of the crime of bigamy, and the trial in such case may take place in the county where such cohabitation shall have occurred."
Revised Laws of Illinois, 1833, p.198-99
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Re: Did Joseph Smith violate the 1833 anti bigamy law?
Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:31 am
by _collegeterrace
bump
Re: Did Joseph Smith violate the 1833 anti bigamy law?
Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:53 pm
by _Yoda
Yes. It is obvious that he broke the law here. I wonder when the Article of Faith regarding "obeying the law if the land" was revealed. ;)
Re: Did Joseph Smith violate the 1833 anti bigamy law?
Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:06 am
by _Scottie
If any person or persons within this State, being married, or who shall hereafter marry, do at any time marry any person or persons, the former husband or wife being alive, the person so offending shall, on conviction thereof, be punished by a fine, not exceeding one thousand dollars, and imprisoned in the penitentiary, not exceeding two years.
It shall not be necessary to prove either of the said marriages by the register or certificate thereof, or other record evidence; but the same may be proved by such evidence as is admissible to prove a marriage in other cases, and when such second marriage shall have taken place without this state, cohabitation in this state after such second marriage shall be deemed the commission of the crime of bigamy, and the trial in such case may take place in the county where such cohabitation shall have occurred.
I wonder...is this enough to make Joseph Smith marriages legal? His wives did not co-habit with him.
Re: Did Joseph Smith violate the 1833 anti bigamy law?
Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:26 pm
by _bcspace
I wonder...is this enough to make Joseph Smith marriages legal? His wives did not co-habit with him.
I was wondering the same thing. Hence, my vote.
Re: Did Joseph Smith violate the 1833 anti bigamy law?
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:20 am
by _collegeterrace
Scottie wrote:If any person or persons within this State, being married, or who shall hereafter marry, do at any time marry any person or persons, the former husband or wife being alive, the person so offending shall, on conviction thereof, be punished by a fine, not exceeding one thousand dollars, and imprisoned in the penitentiary, not exceeding two years.
It shall not be necessary to prove either of the said marriages by the register or certificate thereof, or other record evidence; but the same may be proved by such evidence as is admissible to prove a marriage in other cases, and when such second marriage shall have taken place without this state, cohabitation in this state after such second marriage shall be deemed the commission of the crime of bigamy, and the trial in such case may take place in the county where such cohabitation shall have occurred.
I wonder...is this enough to make Joseph Smith marriages legal? His wives did not co-habit with him.
Perhaps this is true, especially since Fanny was tossed down the stairs by the jealous Emma!
How do we not know Smith did not co habitat with his extra wives/concubines/whores at their residence?
Re: Did Joseph Smith violate the 1833 anti bigamy law?
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:33 am
by _bcspace
How do we not know Smith did not co habitat with his extra wives/concubines/whores at their residence?
How do we not know that you have not stopped beating your wife?
Re: Did Joseph Smith violate the 1833 anti bigamy law?
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:20 am
by _Scottie
collegeterrace wrote:Perhaps this is true, especially since Fanny was tossed down the stairs by the jealous Emma!
How do we not know Smith did not co habitat with his extra wives/concubines/whores at their residence?
How could he keep it a secret if they lived with him??
Re: Did Joseph Smith violate the 1833 anti bigamy law?
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:34 am
by _collegeterrace
Scottie wrote:collegeterrace wrote:Perhaps this is true, especially since Fanny was tossed down the stairs by the jealous Emma!
How do we not know Smith did not co habitat with his extra wives/concubines/whores at their residence?
How could he keep it a secret if they lived with him??
It is well known that Joseph did not spend a lot of time at home with his first wife Emma.
He went house to house, doinking here and doinking there.
Look outside of this, among other things, he was able to get thousands to believe his story of a resurrected white American Indian giving him some plates and then translating them to a book. Hiding the fact that he was getting young hooch was a cinch.
Re: Did Joseph Smith violate the 1833 anti bigamy law?
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:39 am
by _Scottie
collegeterrace wrote:It is well known that Joseph did not spend a lot of time at home with his first wife Emma.
He went house to house, doinking here and doinking there.
Look outside of this, among other things, he was able to get thousands to believe his story of a resurrected white American Indian giving him some plates and then translating them to a book. Hiding the fact that he was getting young hooch was a cinch.
Of course it was....as long as the wives didn't co-habit with him.