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BKP says Joseph Smith never convicted of a crime. True?
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:09 pm
by _mms
Elder Packer stated this in GC this past weekend:
"During his life, Joseph Smith was summoned to court over 200 times on all kinds of trumped up charges. He was never convicted."
Is this true, that he was never convicted of any crime?
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Re: BKP says Joseph Smith never convicted of a crime. True?
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:11 pm
by _harmony
mms wrote:Elder Packer stated this in GC this past weekend:
"During his life, Joseph Smith was summoned to court over 200 times on all kinds of trumped up charges. He was never convicted."
You doubt an apostle?
link:
http://www.ils.unc.edu/~unsworth/Mormon ... ction.htmlPertinent part:
STATE OF NEW YORK v. JOSEPH SMITH
Warrant issued upon written complaint upon oath of Peter G. Bridgeman, who informed that one Joseph Smith of Bainbridge was a disorderly person and an imposter. Prisoner brought before Court March 20, 1826.
{snip court record}
That as evidence of the fact prisoner looked into his hat to tell him about some money witness lost sixteen years ago, and that he described the amn the witness supposed had taken it, and the disposition of the money: And therefore the Court find the Defendant guilty.
Even apostles can be wrong.
Re: BKP says Joseph Smith never convicted of a crime. True?
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:24 pm
by _mms
Ummm. Any apologetic response to this? Although I do think that there is a bit of "behind the times" thinking going on at the top (e.g., deciding it is better to simply not mention Joseph Smith' wives on Joseph Smith website; deciding to delete a paragrpah out of the Wentworth letter without explanation; and myriad other examples of an apparent lack of understanding of the availability of information these days), I simply have trouble believing that BKP would misstate things quite this blatantly.
Re: BKP says Joseph Smith never convicted of a crime. True?
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:27 pm
by _LifeOnaPlate
Re: BKP says Joseph Smith never convicted of a crime. True?
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:28 pm
by _harmony
mms wrote:Ummm. Any apologetic response to this? Although I do think that there is a bit of "behind the times" thinking going on at the top (e.g., deciding it is better to simply not mention Joseph Smith' wives on Joseph Smith website; deciding to delete a paragrpah out of the Wentworth letter without explanation; and myriad other examples of an apparent lack of understanding of the availability of information these days), I simply have trouble believing that BKP would misstate things quite this blatantly.
Faith is a wonderful thing. And I doubt BKP spends much time on the internet.
Re: BKP says Joseph Smith never convicted of a crime. True?
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:34 pm
by _LifeOnaPlate
Gordon A. Madsen, "Joseph Smith's 1826 Trial: The legal setting," BYU Studies (.pdf here:
http://byustudies.BYU.edu/shop/pdfsrc/30.2Madsen.pdf ).
Marvin S. Hill, "Joseph Smith and the 1826 Trial: New Evidence and New Difficulties," here:
http://byustudies.BYU.edu/shop/pdfSRC/12.2Hill.pdfhttp://byustudies.BYU.edu/indexes/searc ... oom_sort=0
Re: BKP says Joseph Smith never convicted of a crime. True?
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:39 pm
by _harmony
No matter how it's spun, it's kinda hard to get around that guilty though, LoaP.
It's on the record.
Re: BKP says Joseph Smith never convicted of a crime. True?
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:44 pm
by _TAK
mms wrote:
Elder Packer stated this in GC this past weekend:
Quote:
"During his life, Joseph Smith was summoned to court over 200 times on all kinds of trumped up charges. He was never convicted."
Over 200 times? Where is that documented?
Re: BKP says Joseph Smith never convicted of a crime. True?
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:14 pm
by _antishock8
200 times??
Re: BKP says Joseph Smith never convicted of a crime. True?
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:27 pm
by _LifeOnaPlate
harmony, I suppose you didn't read any of the sources. I see a trend developing.