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Elder Nelson stated this at GC last weekend (bolding mine):

"On occasion I read in a newspaper obituary of an expectation that a recent death has reunited that person with a deceased spouse when in fact they did not choose the eternal option. Instead they opted for a marriage that was valid only as long as they both should live. Heavenly Father had offered them a supernal gift, but they refused it and in rejecting the gift, they rejected the giver of the gift."

I was unaware that only those who are sealed will be able to attend one another's spirit world reunions upon mortal death. So, for example, if a parent is not sealed to a child, will the parent be permitted to attend the welcoming of the child's spirit to the spirit world upon death? Or are non-Mormons not allowed to have anyone at their welcome gathering since they will clearly not be sealed to anyone? It seems that Elder Nelson is teaching that unless you are sealed to someone, you will not "reunite" with anyone upon death. I was not aware that this was the doctrine. Not being sealed to my mom, I somehow hoped she could still be at my welcome gathering when I die or me at hers when she dies (if I die first). Guess not???
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mms wrote:Elder Nelson stated this at GC last weekend (bolding mine):

"On occasion I read in a newspaper obituary of an expectation that a recent death has reunited that person with a deceased spouse when in fact they did not choose the eternal option. Instead they opted for a marriage that was valid only as long as they both should live. Heavenly Father had offered them a supernal gift, but they refused it and in rejecting the gift, they rejected the giver of the gift."

I was unaware that only those who are sealed will be able to attend one another's spirit world reunions upon mortal death. So, for example, if a parent is not sealed to a child, will the parent be permitted to attend the welcoming of the child's spirit to the spirit world upon death? Or are non-Mormons not allowed to have anyone at their welcome gathering since they will clearly not be sealed to anyone? It seems that Elder Nelson is teaching that unless you are sealed to someone, you will not "reunite" with anyone upon death. I was not aware that this was the doctrine. Not being sealed to my mom, I somehow hoped she could still be at my welcome gathering when I die or me at hers when she dies (if I die first). Guess not???
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It's kind of funny to imagine the outrage that would ensue, when all those spirit people realize that only Mormons get to be with their families after death because God is a legalistic bastard.

mms wrote:Elder Nelson stated this at GC last weekend (bolding mine):

"On occasion I read in a newspaper obituary of an expectation that a recent death has reunited that person with a deceased spouse when in fact they did not choose the eternal option. Instead they opted for a marriage that was valid only as long as they both should live. Heavenly Father had offered them a supernal gift, but they refused it and in rejecting the gift, they rejected the giver of the gift."

I was unaware that only those who are sealed will be able to attend one another's spirit world reunions upon mortal death. So, for example, if a parent is not sealed to a child, will the parent be permitted to attend the welcoming of the child's spirit to the spirit world upon death? Or are non-Mormons not allowed to have anyone at their welcome gathering since they will clearly not be sealed to anyone? It seems that Elder Nelson is teaching that unless you are sealed to someone, you will not "reunite" with anyone upon death. I was not aware that this was the doctrine. Not being sealed to my mom, I somehow hoped she could still be at my welcome gathering when I die or me at hers when she dies (if I die first). Guess not???
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How does this not constitute mocking others' beliefs?

Mad Viking wrote:/quote]How does this not constitute mocking others' beliefs?

So?
We mock other's beliefs all the time

I posted over at MAD that, when it comes to sealings, the common opinion is that "God will work it out in the end."

My question is why is there even a need for sealings if God can just work it all out anyways?? It seems that the rules are awfully flexible.

Not to mention the fact that God's screwed up laws make it impossible for a woman to be with 2 husbands in the afterlife. But then we go full circle with the standard answer, "God will work it out."

It is nothing more than part of the plan of prodding the saints to pay tithes.

Nelson is just regurgitating Mormon bull**** that he was taught. But we expect that a top level leader to be this way.

Additionally, Nelson already has two wives, a deceased one and a newer young replacement who he found and was sealed to fairly quickly after the death of his first wife. So according to LDS BS he will have two wives in heaven.

I don't know which is worse, knowing you will have two wives in heaven or believing that bull****.

solomarineris wrote:

Mad Viking wrote:/quote]How does this not constitute mocking others' beliefs?

So?
We mock other's beliefs all the time

I mistakenly included the dude's comments in my reply. That made it seem like I was asking my question of his comments. My comment was directed at Nelson's remarks. So... In other words I was asking how anyone could view Nelson's comments as anything other than mocking of other's beliefs. Sorry for the confusion.

Either one of two options are true..

1. God came up with this nonsense and "He" is a horrible, sickening, and cruel God.

2. Some men came up with this nonsense and it is just their rather strange (or coercive ?) opinion.

I'm voting for number 2.

;-)

I'm guessing that within the next few decades a lot of changes will occur regarding the teachings relating to sealings. For example, women will be able to be sealed to multiple husbands (even while they are alive), or sealings may become more of a communal symbol of an eternal community, etc.

Anyone want to bet me a hot cocoa?

~td~

mms wrote:Elder Nelson stated this at GC last weekend (bolding mine):

On occasion I read in a newspaper obituary of an expectation that a recent death has reunited that person with a deceased spouse when in fact they did not choose the eternal option. Instead they opted for a marriage that was valid only as long as they both should live."

That's weird that non-mormons believe that families will be together in heaven. I thought that only LDS believed that;) Actually I think most religions believe loved ones will be together in heaven. LDS just think ONLY LDS wil be together forever. Elder Nelson seems to believe this. My question is this. If only people sealed in LDS temples by LDS men get to be together in heaven, how will the non-LDS be seperated? Will there be some police force with boots and clubs in the "non-celestial marriage' sections of heaven keeping non-LDS people from speaking to each other?

mms wrote:Elder Nelson stated this at GC last weekend (bolding mine):

"On occasion I read in a newspaper obituary of an expectation that a recent death has reunited that person with a deceased spouse when in fact they did not choose the eternal option. Instead they opted for a marriage that was valid only as long as they both should live. Heavenly Father had offered them a supernal gift, but they refused it and in rejecting the gift, they rejected the giver of the gift."

Did he really say this? This is a real assholish thing to say about a dead person and the remarks made by their family members in an obituary.