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I remember coming across a site that showed how a conference talk was changed and can't seem to find it.

I seem to the remember how the speaker talked about how "The Church" and "The Gospel" where two separate things. Then when it came out in the ensign, many parts where changed to talk about how The Church & The Gospel worked together. If I remember correctly, he even had to give his talk over for the camera so the Conference tapes they sent out had the corrected version.

Anybody know what I am talking about and could point me to a link?

I remember reading this and I was totally blown away.

Thanks.

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Thanks! That is the page I remember. I have been looking for about 20 minutes. Guess my Google skills are not up to par.

neworder wrote:If I remember correctly, he even had to give his talk over for the camera so the Conference tapes they sent out had the corrected version.

Don't forget the infamous "cough track" they played in the background to complete the deception.

I never knew this. Amazing.

Pohlman's talk (before it was slaughtered by modern day scribes) actually encouraged personal responsibility and the need to nurture a direct relationship with Christ. And yeah, it contrasted the between the gospel and the church - because they never were one in the same.

Having listened to each of the GA's for so many years, I would swear I was hearing BKP in red.

Reminds me of Alfred Molina's character in Chocolat - how he would make it his divine mission write the preacher's sermon and correct him in his inadequacy.

..but without all of the chocolate.

Inconceivable wrote:I never knew this. Amazing.

Pohlman's talk (before it was slaughtered by modern day scribes) actually encouraged personal responsibility and the need to nurture a direct relationship with Christ. And yeah, it contrasted the between the gospel and the church - because they never were one in the same.

I thought that was one of the best talks I ever came across in a GC. in my opinion, it lined up perfectly with what the Book of Mormon actually teaches in 3 Nephi 27, the separation between Church and gospel.

Ray A wrote:I thought that was one of the best talks I ever came across in a GC.

The "before" version or the "after" version?

Dr. Shades wrote:

Ray A wrote:I thought that was one of the best talks I ever came across in a GC.

The "before" version or the "after" version?

The before version. I was disappointed in the revision, and even more so in the acting, or re-enactment. How Poelman endured that I don't know.
I didn't realise the extent of revision until I saw it in print much later.

I think this was probablematic for the leaders:

As individually and collectively we increase our knowledge, acceptance, and application of gospel principles, we [become less dependent on Church programs.] Our lives become gospel centered.

The original is even on YouTube!

I would give anything to know what was going on in the other GA's heads as they were listening. At what point did Elder McConkie sit up in his chair and think "What the h**k?!"

I found it interesting that the church censored out this part. Isn't this what apologists have been arguing for years when arguing doctrine? Yet the church removed it from a GA's talk. I guess this is why apologists don't speak at GC.

Sometimes traditions, customs, social practices and personal preferences of individual Church members may, through repeated or common usage be misconstrued as Church procedures or policies.

Occasionally, such traditions, customs and practices may even be regarded by some as eternal gospel principles.

Under such circumstances those who do not conform to these cultural standards may mistakenly be regarded as unorthodox or even unworthy. In fact, the eternal principles of the gospel and the divinely inspired Church do accommodate a broad spectrum of individual uniqueness and cultural diversity.

The orthodoxy upon which we insist must be founded in fundamental principles and eternal law, including free agency and the divine uniqueness of the individual.

It is important therefore to know the difference between eternal gospel principles which are unchanging, universally applicable and cultural norms which may vary with time and circumstance.