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Another D&C-132 question.

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:35 pm
by _Mad Viking
Do not the following verses contradict the practice of sealing marriages for dead people? What am I missing?

15 Therefore, if a man marry him a wife in the world, and he marry her not by me nor by my word, and he covenant with her so long as he is in the world and she with him, their covenant and marriage are not of force when they are dead, and when they are out of the world; therefore, they are not bound by any law when they are out of the world.

16 Therefore, when they are out of the world they neither marry nor are given in marriage; but are appointed angels in heaven, which angels are ministering servants, to minister for those who are worthy of a far more, and an exceeding, and an eternal weight of glory.

17 For these angels did not abide my law; therefore, they cannot be enlarged, but remain separately and singly, without exaltation, in their saved condition, to all eternity; and from henceforth are not gods, but are angels of God forever and ever.

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Re: Another D&C-132 question.

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:08 pm
by _harmony
Joseph and his successors tended to ignore that which they wanted to ignore (like the part about marrying only virgins the 1st wife approved of) and emphasize those parts they want to emphasize (like no coffee or tea).

Continuing revelation is such a handy doctrine.

If you expect consistency, you're in the wrong place.

Re: Another D&C-132 question.

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:22 pm
by _malkie
harmony wrote:Joseph and his successors tended to ignore that which they wanted to ignore (like the part about marrying only virgins the 1st wife approved of) and emphasize those parts they want to emphasize (like no coffee or tea).

Continuing revelation is such a handy doctrine.

If you expect consistency, you're in the wrong place.

I seem to remember being told that the inability to "marry [or be] given in marriage" "when they are out of the world" was the reason that proxy ordinances had to be done by the living.

Not saying it completely makes sense, just that this was how it was explained to me.

Re: Another D&C-132 question.

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:37 pm
by _harmony
malkie wrote:
harmony wrote:Joseph and his successors tended to ignore that which they wanted to ignore (like the part about marrying only virgins the 1st wife approved of) and emphasize those parts they want to emphasize (like no coffee or tea).

Continuing revelation is such a handy doctrine.

If you expect consistency, you're in the wrong place.

I seem to remember being told that the inability to "marry [or be] given in marriage" "when they are out of the world" was the reason that proxy ordinances had to be done by the living.

Not saying it completely makes sense, just that this was how it was explained to me.


Ah! So you're saying the couple themselves aren't marrying; it's their proxies! Like the individual isn't being dunked in baptism; it's their proxy.

I see.

Re: Another D&C-132 question.

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:20 am
by _solomarineris
Ah! So you're saying the couple themselves aren't marrying; it's their proxies! Like the individual isn't being dunked in baptism; it's their proxy.
I see.

No, you don't see, unless you're Trekkie and watched the episode when Jordie got lost with his hot chick in "Transporter" unit, they were in this cyberworld, "Data" (Baptised for Dead) had to rescue them.
It is really easy to dig, once you are a Trekkie.

Re: Another D&C-132 question.

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:12 am
by _Scottie
Another apologetic response I've seen to this is the difference between the concept of "marriage" vs "sealings". Yes, nobody will be "married" in heaven. Rather, they will be "sealed".