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Word of Wisdom - Legal substances/ethnogens, etc.

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:09 pm
by _Tidejwe
The General Handbook of Instructions says:

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Word of Wisdom
The only official interpretation of "hot drinks" (D&C 89:9) in the Word of Wisdom is the statement made by early Church leaders that the term "hot drinks" means tea and coffee.
Members should not use any substance that contains illegal drugs. Nor should members use harmful or habit-forming substances except under the care of a competent physician.
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Many people claim that "herbal teas" are still OK to drink and use them regularly. Where does the church draw the line? There are many substances that could easily not fall under the interpretation above. For example, "Kratom" is an herb/plant that is commonly taken as an herbal tea, though some people take it as sort of supplement to aid in depression, anxiety, and even marriage therapy. It is legal and it doesn't show up in drug tests. It is not harmful, and not addictive if not abused...it does have many alkaloids that are opioid receptor agonists, but it doesn't cause hallucinations or anything harmful. Mostly it makes you happy, and open minded and talkative and removes awkwardness and creates trust and openness and closeness, etc. Since it's not harmful or habit forming or illegal, then by the standards I read above it should be OK to use as equally as eating a candy bar for the theobromine effects, or a protein shake, or ginseng tablets or fish oil, etc.

Similarly there are other substances like "Salvia" that have no negative health effects, and are not addictive. It's also completely legal and doesn't show up in any drug tests. So by the standards of the Handbook of instructions, it's "permitted" to take even though it can potentially cause "visions and hallucinations", etc.

An argument could be made for several other things like Amanita Muscaria, Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seed, Ololiuqui (Rivea Corymbosa), and several other legal ethnogens, many of which aren't "harmful" or "addictive". Similarly, in countries where "Marijuana" isn't illegal, it wouldn't fall under the handbook of instructions either because it has been proven to have no physiological addictive properties and is completely harmless, especially if used in moderation for things such as ADD, anxiety, pain, appetite control, etc.

Thoughts? :)

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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:27 pm
by _Ezias
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:45 pm
by _Ezias
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Re: Word of Wisdom - Legal substances/ethnogens, etc.

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:53 am
by _harmony
Ezias wrote:Seriously, do you think a cure for cancer should be against the Word of Wisdom? That seems pretty evil and twisted to me. However, because of the stigma the church has put on marijuana, they have frightened many members away from the only treatment that may be able to actually cure them.


Since when does pot cure cancer? I must have missed that research breakthrough... and I'm in a position to see pretty much every cancer-related research breakthrough.

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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 1:18 am
by _Ezias
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Re: Word of Wisdom - Legal substances/ethnogens, etc.

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 1:25 am
by _harmony
Ezias wrote:The government has intentionally hid cannabis cancer research from the US public, therefore most research has been done outside the US.


Right. It's all a conspiracy. The government is out to make sure no cure for cancer is found. Nevermind all the independent research done... it's all a conspiracy! Right.

God, save us from conspiracy theorist fools.

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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 1:31 am
by _Ezias
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 1:34 am
by _Ezias
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 1:43 am
by _Ezias
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Re: Word of Wisdom - Legal substances/ethnogens, etc.

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 1:51 am
by _harmony
Ezias wrote:Since I am a cancer patient, I researched it seriously for weeks before coming to my conclusions. I don't have time for the social stigma to be reversed or federal government to wake up, it may be too late then. The point is, marijuana has been proven to kill cancer cells. I include it among many other natural vitamin and herbal supplements to help fight off my cancer. I should have the right to use anything that I think will be beneficial for my health.


Weeks, huh? Wow. Impressive.

Nevermind the years... decades... and millions of dollars spent on cancer research, you've got it all figured out: POT is the ANSWER!

I guess my job is now done. The cure has been found.

Right. I'll be sure to let my supervisor, vice president, CEO, hundreds of volunteers, and the other members of my team know on Monday. It will no doubt be a banner day.