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"how could gays evolve?" or a version thereof crops up now and again on the board, so I though you guys might be interested in this.

There are a number of sound reasons why homosexuality is compatible with evolution, and anyone who thinks it is not 'natural' has not spent much time observing free-range animals. But gayness is likely to be frequency dependent - with the percentage of gays maintained in balance with other factors effecting the species.

What happens when things get out of balance? This is sad and funny at the same time:

Gay' ducks frustrating breeders" TV3 (NZ) News

A UK wildlife centre's hopes of breeding rare ducks native to New Zealand have been dashed - it turns out the males are gay.

New Zealand blue ducks Ben and Jerry were expected to find their live connection with female, Cherry, but she is not what the boys are looking for.

Arundel Wetland Centre in the south of England says the pair follow each other everywhere and put on elaborate mating displays, completely ignoring Cherry.

Ben and Jerry's behaviour could explain why there are only 600 blue ducks left in the world.

The radio reported this morning that Cherry has died, leaving Ben and Jerry the only two New Zealand blue ducks left in the UK.




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Danna wrote:"how could gays evolve?" or a version thereof crops up now and again on the board, so I though you guys might be interested in this.

There are a number of sound reasons why homosexuality is compatible with evolution, and anyone who thinks it is not 'natural' has not spent much time observing free-range animals. But gayness is likely to be frequency dependent - with the percentage of gays maintained in balance with other factors effecting the species.

What happens when things get out of balance? This is sad and funny at the same time:

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So logically if we don't kill all the gays now and weed out this defective gene we may go the way of the blue duck.

The Nehor wrote:So logically if we don't kill all the gays now and weed out this defective gene we may go the way of the blue duck.

I think humans are out of balance in the other direction!
We have infested the world to the point that a reasonable standard of living for all is unsustainable.

Danna wrote:I think humans are out of balance in the other direction!
We have infested the world to the point that a reasonable standard of living for all is unsustainable.

As a gesture of seriousness about this issue, perhaps certain people here should remove themselves from the planet?

Anybody willing to volunteer?

I'll do my part to arrange for delivery of the remains to an eco-friendly regional composting facility.

As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list--I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed--who never would be missed!
There's the pestilential nuisances who write for autographs--
All people who have flabby hands and irritating laughs--
All children who are up in dates, and floor you with 'em flat--
All persons who in shaking hands, shake hands with you like _that_--
And all third persons who on spoiling tete-a-tetes insist--
They'd none of 'em be missed--they'd none of 'em be missed!

CHORUS. He's got 'em on the list--he's got 'em on the list;
And they'll none of 'em be missed--they'll none of
'em be missed.

There's the banjo serenader, and the others of his race,
And the piano-organist--I've got him on the list!
And the people who eat peppermint and puff it in your face,
They never would be missed--they never would be missed!
Then the idiot who praises, with enthusiastic tone,
All centuries but this, and every country but his own;
And the lady from the provinces, who dresses like a guy,
And who "doesn't think she waltzes, but would rather like to
try";
And that singular anomaly, the lady novelist--
I don't think she'd be missed--I'm sure she'd not he missed!

CHORUS. He's got her on the list--he's got her on the list;
And I don't think she'll be missed--I'm sure
she'll not be missed!

And that Nisi Prius nuisance, who just now is rather rife,
The Judicial humorist--I've got him on the list!
All funny fellows, comic men, and clowns of private life--
They'd none of 'em be missed--they'd none of 'em be missed.
And apologetic statesmen of a compromising kind,
Such as--What d'ye call him--Thing'em-bob, and
likewise--Never-mind,
And 'St--'st--'st--and What's-his-name, and also You-know-who--
The task of filling up the blanks I'd rather leave to you.
But it really doesn't matter whom you put upon the list,
For they'd none of 'em be missed--they'd none of 'em be
missed!

CHORUS. You may put 'em on the list--you may put 'em on the list;
And they'll none of 'em be missed--they'll none of
'em be missed!

(I thought of updating this, as is commonly done in performance, to refer to specific personalities relevant to this board, but I couldn't bear to think of poor Mister Scratch fainting dead away in terror and having to be revived with smelling salts.)

Daniel Peterson wrote:

Danna wrote:I think humans are out of balance in the other direction!
We have infested the world to the point that a reasonable standard of living for all is unsustainable.

As a gesture of seriousness about this issue, perhaps certain people here should remove themselves from the planet?

Anybody willing to volunteer?

I'll do my part to arrange for delivery of the remains to an eco-friendly regional composting facility.

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Everyone who is here already has the right to be treated as welcome. DCP's joke is intended ironically no doubt.

But given that the number of new humans requiring welcome is under our control due to the discovery of good and quite cheap means of contraception, perhaps we ought to think how many more people we can practically manage to welcome in the style any human being deserves, and make our plans accordingly?

Cool. I guess I can still wear my "Evolution is Gay" t-shirt.

Danna wrote:

The Nehor wrote:So logically if we don't kill all the gays now and weed out this defective gene we may go the way of the blue duck.

I think humans are out of balance in the other direction!
We have infested the world to the point that a reasonable standard of living for all is unsustainable.

Just give an authentic leftist enough time and opportunity, and the reality will be made known soon enough.

Amazing how its really all of a piece.

But given that the number of new humans requiring welcome is under our control due to the discovery of good and quite cheap means of contraception, perhaps we ought to think how many more people we can practically manage to welcome in the style any human being deserves, and make our plans accordingly?

Given that overpopulation is yet another egregious leftist fairy story whose sole purpose is to ensure that those of present generations who have their (incredibly abundant) piece of the pie shall not have to share any of it with others (and so sexuality can continue to be entirely decoupled from the responsibilities of family and child birth), the point is rather moot.

We need have little worry over other egregious nostrums such as "sustainability" either.

No need, I suppose, to bother with the thoroughly pseudo-scientific evolutionary justification for homosexuality, as wholesale absence of any evidence for such a claim is rather palpable.

Droopy wrote:Just give an authentic leftist enough time and opportunity, and the reality will be made known soon enough.

Amazing how its really all of a piece.

I have no idea what you're talking about