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No, The Nehor. Sadly, you misread it back then, and you are misreading it now. I said that to you either in jest, or to manipulate you (or even more likely: both). I have never thought you were "one of the good ones." I have always thought that you were a substance-free dweeb. Sorry, but that's just my honest .02. Please don't let that stop you from (finally!) attempting to contribute something of sincerity, intelligence, and substance.

Scratch

May I ask, did you just admit that you in your posting you attempt to manipulate people?

This is the best post ever. Scratch admitted publicly that he lies to manipulate people. He is backpedaling and admitted it...publicly.

This is a serious and disturbing admission and makes one question the validity of everything he has ever said. Why, it makes one question that his conspiracy theories may not even have been arrived at in good faith. To those who find this shocking (Hi Gadianton) I ask only that we observe a moment of silence as this great man is revealed as a fraud to us all.

antishock8 wrote:"The Nehor" has NEVER attempted serious apologia. He is lying. His response to this post will be more of the same.

I challenge "The Nehor" to a substantive debate on any topic in the Celestial forum in order for him to back up his claims of being a serious apologist at one time or another. He can pick the topic.

Very well, I challenge you to a debate on Joseph Smith being a reptilian. You take 'for', I'll take 'against'. Do you accept the challenge?

Jason Bourne wrote:

No, The Nehor. Sadly, you misread it back then, and you are misreading it now. I said that to you either in jest, or to manipulate you (or even more likely: both). I have never thought you were "one of the good ones." I have always thought that you were a substance-free dweeb. Sorry, but that's just my honest .02. Please don't let that stop you from (finally!) attempting to contribute something of sincerity, intelligence, and substance.

Scratch

May I ask, did you just admit that you in your posting you attempt to manipulate people?

No. That's not what I said.

The Nehor wrote:This is the best post ever. Scratch admitted publicly that he lies to manipulate people. He is backpedaling and admitted it...publicly.

Nice try, The Nehor. Actually, that's not what I said at all. And, I have no need to backpedal---unlike you, who still hasn't managed to provide a single shred of evidence regarding your supposed sincerity and seriousness.

This is a serious and disturbing admission and makes one question the validity of everything he has ever said. Why, it makes one question that his conspiracy theories may not even have been arrived at in good faith. To those who find this shocking (Hi Gadianton) I ask only that we observe a moment of silence as this great man is revealed as a fraud to us all.

Lol. Well, The Nehor, I know that you are still very angry at me. You are mad because I manipulated you into losing your cool, and your frustration takes you back to the bitter days during your mission when your butt was handed to you by Church critics. But, you shouldn't allow yourself to lose your temper, The Nehor. It's un-Christlike.

Lol. Well, The Nehor, I know that you are still very angry at me. You are mad because I manipulated you into losing your cool, and your frustration takes you back to the bitter days during your mission when your butt was handed to you by Church critics. But, you shouldn't allow yourself to lose your temper, The Nehor. It's un-Christlike.

I'd also like to add that The Nehor is still young, and can change. He doesn't have to follow the path of the apologist. The anger doesn't have to control his life. Given the fact there is little evidence The Nehor is on a path to achieving an advanced degree in something "ancient" related, his chances are very slim of ever becoming a senior apologist, so if he continues on this course, he may wake up one day to find himself the next Schryver. Devoted, angry, unrecognized, addicted to coffee, and always feeling old.

No fully paid trips to Alaska in your future, Nehor.

Runtu wrote:It's that time again, time to make your nominations for the apologists who stand out in their field.

At MADb?

Angriest apologist: Pahoran

Least substantive apologist: Hmmm... too many to choose from. Lostindc, zerinus, obiwan

Rube Goldberg award for most convoluted attempt at apologia:

Lifetime achievement in hubris: Matthew Brown (Helorum/098)

Most predictable apologist: Zerinus

Most embarrassing apologist: Zerinus, Lostindc, obiwah

Most intelligent apologist: Kevin Barney

Apologist whose posts you enjoy reading: Dan Peterson

Most honest apologist: The Monk, Kevin Barney

Mister Scratch wrote:

The Nehor wrote:This is the best post ever. Scratch admitted publicly that he lies to manipulate people. He is backpedaling and admitted it...publicly.

Nice try, The Nehor. Actually, that's not what I said at all. And, I have no need to backpedal---unlike you, who still hasn't managed to provide a single shred of evidence regarding your supposed sincerity and seriousness.

This is a serious and disturbing admission and makes one question the validity of everything he has ever said. Why, it makes one question that his conspiracy theories may not even have been arrived at in good faith. To those who find this shocking (Hi Gadianton) I ask only that we observe a moment of silence as this great man is revealed as a fraud to us all.

Lol. Well, The Nehor, I know that you are still very angry at me. You are mad because I manipulated you into losing your cool, and your frustration takes you back to the bitter days during your mission when your butt was handed to you by Church critics. But, you shouldn't allow yourself to lose your temper, The Nehor. It's un-Christlike.

May I ask what you did say then?

Will you write my biography for me. Luckily you don't need things like sources or a passing knowledge of my life. Should save time in the writing. Oh, and I categorically deny everything you said about my past except that I went on a Mission.

Gadianton wrote:I'd also like to add that The Nehor is still young, and can change. He doesn't have to follow the path of the apologist. The anger doesn't have to control his life. Given the fact there is little evidence The Nehor is on a path to achieving an advanced degree in something "ancient" related, his chances are very slim of ever becoming a senior apologist, so if he continues on this course, he may wake up one day to find himself the next Schryver. Devoted, angry, unrecognized, addicted to coffee, and always feeling old.

No fully paid trips to Alaska in your future, Nehor.

Thank you toadie of Scratch but your master has already spoken. No need to be repetitive.

Scratch

May I ask, did you just admit that you in your posting you attempt to manipulate people?

No. That's not what I said.

You said:

I said that to you either in jest, or to manipulate you (or even more likely: both).

How can that be more plain? You confessed to deliberately manipulating someone here.