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Mister Scratch wrote:Dear Drs. Ray and Robbers,

I thank you for coming to my defense. It's clear that my musings on possible blessings and/or setting apart of apologists had really touched a nerve. I'm not sure why this bothers certain people so much, but, clearly, it does.

The Nehor wrote:Touched a nerve, you're being ridiculed to scorn not because what you say has merit but because it's an unfounded unverified guess by a known conspiracy theorist. You're like a circus clown thinking he's being taken seriously because everyone is pointing and laughing.

Mister Scratch wrote:More personal insults and unkind comparisons.

If my observations had no merit, one would think that apologists would be able to provide calm, meaningful, well-composed rebuttals, rather than relying on jokes about outhouses and comparisons to circus clowns. Instead, on the original thread, there were a number of thoughtful posters (TD and Tom, for instance) who provided further supporting reasons as to why it seems perfectly legitimate to assume that some kind of ecclesiastical sanction (blessing of the MI facilities, for instance, or setting apart of John Gee) took place.

If you can supply a good reason why the General Authorities wouldn't have blessed or set apart the apologists (which is every bit as fascinating and revelatory a question, in my opinion), then feel free to do so.

Gadianton wrote:Wow. First there was talk among the apologists that Scratch wanted to put things in people's butts, and now we have the apologists hoping and praying(?) that Scratch will sexually molest animals along with a slew of slanderous accusations such as Mister Scratch being a criminal that pays for sex. This is a pretty desperate attempt to blacken Scratch's character. Contrast this with the legitimate critiques Scratch makes. When Scratch talks about events that psychologically shaped the apologists, he sticks with episodes that the apologists have not only openly admitted to publically, but have themselves tied it into their overall projects as apologists. I think 007 owes Scratch a big apology, and if the apologists over at MAD have any moral fiber whatsoever, and are not hypocrites, they will repudiate 007's vile remarks here.

dblagent007 wrote:You know Gad, you're right. I should apologize to Scratch. I never should have revealed those things about his past on a public bulletin board.

dblagent007 wrote:

Gadianton wrote:Wow. First there was talk among the apologists that Scratch wanted to put things in people's butts, and now we have the apologists hoping and praying(?) that Scratch will sexually molest animals along with a slew of slanderous accusations such as Mister Scratch being a criminal that pays for sex. This is a pretty desperate attempt to blacken Scratch's character. Contrast this with the legitimate critiques Scratch makes. When Scratch talks about events that psychologically shaped the apologists, he sticks with episodes that the apologists have not only openly admitted to publically, but have themselves tied it into their overall projects as apologists. I think 007 owes Scratch a big apology, and if the apologists over at MAD have any moral fiber whatsoever, and are not hypocrites, they will repudiate 007's vile remarks here.

You know Gad, you're right. I should apologize to Scratch. I never should have revealed those things about his past on a public bulletin board. It's just that we are all trying so hard to get Scratch to open up to someone that I thought maybe laying out the source of his problems would be just the ticket. Sorry, Scratch.

The Nehor wrote: You can't provide calm, meaningful, well-composed rebuttals of the rantings of a lunatic. Of all the people in this discussion only one is in a position to know and he said it doesn't happen. Not content with logic and reason and evidence you concoct more insane scenarios.

I can't debate you. If a lunatic points out that the sky is in fact pink with purple dots in it there's no having a conversation. There is pointing, laughing, and possibly throwing peanuts at him.

Ray A wrote:You have a very sick sense of "humour".

Some Schmo wrote:

The Nehor wrote: You can't provide calm, meaningful, well-composed rebuttals of the rantings of a lunatic. Of all the people in this discussion only one is in a position to know and he said it doesn't happen. Not content with logic and reason and evidence you concoct more insane scenarios.

I can't debate you. If a lunatic points out that the sky is in fact pink with purple dots in it there's no having a conversation. There is pointing, laughing, and possibly throwing peanuts at him.

LOL

Dude... people in glass houses, stones, and all that.

It seems to me that what you just stated is the exact reason you stopped trying to have reasoned discussions here, if I've interpreted your posting behavior correctly. Everyone was saying this sort of thing about you.

If Scratch bears his testimony that everything his says is true, will you believe him then? I mean, you should, given your own experiences and expectations of others, shouldn't you?