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_Mister Scratch
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JSkains Resurfaces

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Many here will no doubt remember the potato-faced, googly-eyed amateur Mopologist called Josh [deleted], who has been something of a recurring character on the messageboards. With his explosive temper, reactionary manner, and unhesitating penchant for calling others "immature," it's no surprise that he has made a mark on the world of LDS apologetics. But, due to his antics, the more serious apologetics---i.e., the "official" arms represented by FARMS and FAIR--have sought to distance themselves from him. He once offered to volunteer for FAIR, for instance, and he was turned away!

Roughly a year ago, many here will no doubt remember [deleted]'s strange antics, where he accused me of making death threats against his family. When he was challenged on this issue, he ultimately had to confess that he had been lying about the whole thing. It was a very ugly, very messy affair, and [deleted] came just short of being banned. Indeed, he left the board hanging his head and shame.

So, one has to wonder why he didn't learn his lesson. Thanks to an invaluable tip, I was led to the following link:

http://www.nataliercollins.com/weblog/2 ... /#comments

Natalie R. Collins is apparently and ex-Mormon writer who managed to raise the considerable ire of the considerable Jskains. I urge interested parties to read the link, and to prepare themselves to experience a remarkable sense of deja vu. Here is a small sampling of the exchange:

Natalie Collins wrote:If you happen upon the url, http://www.mormonssuck.com, please be aware you have been TRAPPED, misled, and filled with half truths and dumb interpretations. Mormonssuck.com is actually run by an ardent Mormon named Joshua, and he figures you will discover, by reading his Web site, that in fact, Mormons DO NOT suck. He doesn’t offer much to prove this, and honestly, I agree. Mormons are great. I love Mormons. Some of my very favorite human beings are Mormon. I personally find the religion silly and baseless, but hey, to each his own.

That said, Joshua thinks it’s perfectly all right for him to run a Web site for the express purpose of touting his religion as the only true thing, and yet is UTTERLY offended that I have the very GALL to do the same thing… Uh, sorta. After all, I am not touting any “one true thing.” But other than that, it’s really similar. How can he not see that?


Next, she goes on to post his email:

jskains wrote:Name: Joshua
Message: What a dumb website… Can you imagine a website called \”Trapped by the Jews\”??? Filled with half truths and dumb interpretations, your website serves as nothing more than a sick display of religious bigotry and arrogant self-promoting in an attempt to exploit a religious group.


Sound familiar? You can probably guess where it goes from here. Natalie responds:

N.C. wrote:Dear Joshua,

Where ever is your sense of humor? It’s not a “literal” trapped, and in fact is a tongue-on-cheek play on a very old, very campy film, also titled TRAPPED BY THE Mormons.

Sick display of religious bigotry? I think not. In addition, where are those half-truths? And the dumb interpretations? It’s easy to spout out angry euphemisms, but can you back it up with fact? I think not. You’re just mad because I am not one of the “faith promoting” mass Mormons, like yourself.

Open your eyes. You’ll see there is an entire world out there, and it’s filled with a few people who don’t take themselves so seriously. And quit comparing yourself to the Jews. It ain’t flying. Oh, yeah, and while you are at it, quit BAPTIZING them, too. They have their own religion, thanks, and I sure haven’t seen any of them trying to baptize all of YOUR relatives.

Love and kisses,

Natalie.


And [deleted]:

jskains wrote: What a childish retort. If you’d like to baptize my relatives, feel free. Since I know you don’t have the authority of God to do such, it don’t bug me. I’m more mature than that.

And the comparison is valid. You wouldn’t dare mock other religions, only Mormonism, because you’ve been suckered into Anti-Mormon stupidity. Like the half-cocked complaint about the error in the Ward Directory… Clue, those can have printing errors and aren’t always up-to-date. If they were, I am no longer a member. Why? Cause I am not in there at all!!! So my missing entries trump your errored entry.

I could take weeks knocking over every dumb claim of yours, but why? Your a bigot.. And religious bigots are the worst kind because they grasp ANYTHING negative they can. So my points would be lost.

JMS


My, my. It seems that some folks never learn. Before long (as you can imagine), [deleted] was frothing at the mouth. Having once had literary ambitions himself, he seemed especially angry at Ms. Collins's accomplishments, and his anger overflowed in this next bit:

jskains wrote: The worst part? You profit on your bigotry. You take tired old anti-Mormon themes and push them out as “truth”.

But hey.. I am an aspiring writer. I want to write a book about white women being trapped by blacks. How they force the white women to eat watermelon and cornbread and how they rape them each night to try to turn them black in a secret plot to breed white people.

How bout I call it “Trapped by the Niggers”?

JMS


Wow! That's pretty inflammatory, Josh! Have you been taking lessons from Bill Hamblin? As is so often the case with these Skaincapades, a familiar pattern emerges, with [deleted] feeling embarrassed about his behavior, and issuing the usual threats:

jskains wrote:Funny, even filling out this comment form, it says that my email address will not be published, yet your pathetic enough to publish my private email address in some childish response. I have notified your website provider as well as my attorney. You need to grow up some.


jskains wrote:Also, please note that Natalie was never given permission to publish my comments. I expressed to her my thoughts and her immediate action is to publish my private email in an attempt to cause me harm. Now who is the evil one here? Who is the toddler?


Right. Of course. So goes yet another episode of As the [deleted] Turns. One can only hope that he'll next post a YouTube lecture directed at Collins. Will it surpass K. Shirts's and Bill Hamblin's cinematic efforts? One can only wait and see!
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Oh brother! Well, it's vintage [deleted].

Wow! That's pretty inflammatory, Josh! Have you been taking lessons from Bill Hamblin?

Oh man. That was pretty awful, I had to resist copying and pasting it to respond to. Independent of how "innocent" Hamblin's antics might have been according to apologetics offered on his behalf, he certainly set a dangerous precedent for the junior apologists to emulate.
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Mister Scratch wrote:unhesitating penchant for calling others "immature,"

And then there's the prolific, I need a life, poster on this board with an unhesitating penchant for demanding apologies at every turn.
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Mister Scratch wrote:Many here will no doubt remember the potato-faced, googly-eyed amateur Mopologist called Josh [deleted]...

Unnecessary and immaterial to the subject. Try to stick with the facts, Scratch. Descriptors like this aren't necessary or germane to the topic.
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Excellent post, Mister Scratch. I never would've known about his quasi-resurfacing otherwise.

There is one point to which I must add a correction:

. . . [deleted] came just short of being banned.

That's incorrect. [deleted] was never in any danger of being banned. He was far, far, **FAR** too entertaining to ban.

JSkains was one of the best things to happen to this message board. Whenever he blesses a message board with his presence, a great time is soon had by all.

Should he ever cast his eyes upon MormonDiscussions again, I would welcome him with open arms.
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I find it rather sad and even pathetic that you feel a need to do your spinning and dancing craft upon someone like Josh who is clearly a troubled person. Frankly this is down right mean of you and somewhat like a sixth grade bully picking on the odd kid at the playground. And you also call him names and make fun of how he looks.

This is a new low from one who excels at low. Shame on you and shame on your little crowd of cheerleaders here.

This is not an excellent post Shades. Not at all.
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I agree with Jason. This feels like tormenting someone who is vulnerable.
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.

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Jason Bourne wrote:I find it rather sad and even pathetic that you feel a need to do your spinning and dancing craft upon someone like Josh who is clearly a troubled person. Frankly this is down right mean of you and somewhat like a sixth grade bully picking on the odd kid at the playground. And you also call him names and make fun of how he looks.

This is a new low from one who excels at low. Shame on you and shame on your little crowd of cheerleaders here.

This is not an excellent post Shades. Not at all.


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Dr. Shades wrote:Excellent post, Mister Scratch. I never would've known about his quasi-resurfacing otherwise.

There is one point to which I must add a correction:

. . . [deleted] came just short of being banned.

That's incorrect. [deleted] was never in any danger of being banned. He was far, far, **FAR** too entertaining to ban.

JSkains was one of the best things to happen to this message board. Whenever he blesses a message board with his presence, a great time is soon had by all.

Should he ever cast his eyes upon MormonDiscussions again, I would welcome him with open arms.

You would welcome him with open arms and not a few posters would gang bang him with ridicule. This isn't something to be proud of, Shades.

It's unseemly.
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This must be the same compulsion that some feel toward The Taliban or Al Qaeda. JSkains is an idiot. A dick. A potato faced bug-eyed dip****. He's a liar. A deceiver. He is The Nehor. He is Daniel Peterson. He is The Mormon church. I don't understand pacifying Evil that would deny homosexuals equal rights, subordinate women, make Blacks feel universally inferior, make agreements to the LDS church over the US government (via the temple), etc...

I have no compassion for National Socialists (that's a Nazi/Syrian Nationalist for you uneducated asshole hippies), fascists, Communists, bigots, Islamists, Christian Fundamentalists, Mormons... etc...

And JSkains fall underneath one of those paradigms. It's sick. And those that aid and abet him under the auspice of compassion are simply Useful Idiots at best.

So. So sad. :(
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