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Former LDS Believrs, I need your help

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:07 pm
by _wenglund
I am attempting to compile a top 10 - 20 list of issues that have lead to loss of LDS faith and the material from critics/anti-Mormons that was instramental therein. Could you provide me with your personal list so I can aggrigate the responses? Or, if such a list has already been vetted, could you point me to it?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Re: Former LDS Believrs, I need your help

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:25 pm
by _antishock8

Re: Former LDS Believrs, I need your help

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:32 pm
by _DarkHelmet
wenglund wrote:I am attempting to compile a top 10 - 20 list of issues that have lead to loss of LDS faith and the material from critics/anti-Mormons that was instramental therein. Could you provide me with your personal list so I can aggrigate the responses? Or, if such a list has already been vetted, could you point me to it?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


THe number 1 issue for all of us is we wanted to sin.

Re: Former LDS Believrs, I need your help

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:48 pm
by _harmony
DarkHelmet wrote:
THe number 1 issue for all of us is we wanted to sin.


Which, if that was true, would be a fruitless pursuit, since all church members already sin.

Re: Former LDS Believrs, I need your help

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:52 pm
by _Inconceivable
wenglund wrote:I am attempting to compile a top 10 - 20 list of issues that have lead to loss of LDS faith and the material from critics/anti-Mormons that was instramental therein. Could you provide me with your personal list so I can aggrigate the responses? Or, if such a list has already been vetted, could you point me to it?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


What are your ulterior motives, Wade.

Your request demonstrates your inability to recognize the concerns of those you have had dialog with here and other places for years.

I don't find you disarming or sincere.

Re: Former LDS Believrs, I need your help

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:48 pm
by _wenglund
Inconceivable wrote: What are your ulterior motives, Wade.

Your request demonstrates your inability to recognize the concerns of those you have had dialog with here and other places for years.

I don't find you disarming or sincere.


Of course, to your way of thinking, my perceptions of former members will always be entirely lacking, and my motives will always be suspect and my intents dastardly. But, If you feel the least bit threatened or fearful of my horrifying request, then I acknowledge your freedom not to participate. No one is putting a gun to anyone's head, though such endevours are not for the faint of heart. I do honor your bravery for posting what you did.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Re: Former LDS Believrs, I need your help

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:57 pm
by _wondering
Here are a few issues that are difficult to resolve:

- Polyandry
- Polygamy
- Priesthood witheld from Blacks
- Masonic nature of temple ritual
- Jeredite barges -- hard to envision ability to carry people, animals, cargo for a year-long ocean voyage based on Book of Mormon construction description
- The Isaiah-based Book of Mormon issues raised by Dr. David Wright of Brandeis Univ (I can provide details if not clear)

Thanks in advance for any insight anyone can provide concerning these issues

Re: Former LDS Believrs, I need your help

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:59 pm
by _truth dancer
Hey Wade... nice to see you! :razz:

Just curious, but why do you want such a list? Are you writing a book or paper?

Also, I'm wondering what you think are the top ten or twenty reasons people stop believing in Mormonism? Do you think these reasons differ from those who stop believing in other religions, say Scientology, FLDS, JWs, etc. etc.

:-)

~td~

Re: Former LDS Believrs, I need your help

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 7:03 pm
by _truth dancer
Hi Wondering... welcome to the board!

wondering wrote:Here are a few issues that are difficult to resolve:

- Polyandry
- Polygamy
- Priesthood witheld from Blacks
- Masonic nature of temple ritual
- Jeredite barges -- hard to envision ability to carry people, animals, cargo for a year-long ocean voyage based on Book of Mormon construction description
- The Isaiah-based Book of Mormon issues raised by Dr. David Wright of Brandeis Univ (I can provide details if not clear)

Thanks in advance for any insight anyone can provide concerning these issues


Are you looking for ways to resolve/dismiss/rectify these issues? Are you hoping to find ways to rationalize or accept them as holy and of God?

~td~

Re: Former LDS Believrs, I need your help

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 7:12 pm
by _wondering
truth dancer wrote:Hi Wondering... welcome to the board!

wondering wrote:Here are a few issues that are difficult to resolve:

- Polyandry
- Polygamy
- Priesthood witheld from Blacks
- Masonic nature of temple ritual
- Jeredite barges -- hard to envision ability to carry people, animals, cargo for a year-long ocean voyage based on Book of Mormon construction description
- The Isaiah-based Book of Mormon issues raised by Dr. David Wright of Brandeis Univ (I can provide details if not clear)

Thanks in advance for any insight anyone can provide concerning these issues


Are you looking for ways to resolve/dismiss/rectify these issues? Are you hoping to find ways to rationalize or accept them as holy and of God?

~td~


I'm particularly interested in how believers rationalize these issues. To me these (any others) call into question the divinity of the claims of restoration