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This weekend I completed a motorcyle safety course. I was wondering what I would have been like if I had taken the course when I was a lot younger. Would I have done something impulsive and stupid and got thrown out. Would I have raced passed the instructor, starteling him. It likely would have been par for me at the time. Did GoodK do something impulsive and stupid. Likely so. Maybe that's why Jesus started his mission at thirty. And at that time he said do good to people who do bad things to you.

When I first read DCPS' post I was astounded (if I could be). I thought to myself - here comes trouble. I did not know what he was responding too or tried to do. When he wrote his apology I thought - that's it. You do something like that and just say - nevermin. I think DCP should have seen issues that might come up when he was typing it up. Many times I respond to something and get a bad feeling and then instead of hitting submit or post hit terrestrial forum which just makes what I wrote vanish.

DCP with all his experience - being a bishop, father, university prof, etc etc, should have known better. May be if he was on something this would not have happened.

karl61 wrote:DCP with all his experience - being a bishop, father, university prof, etc etc, should have known better.

You're absolutely right.

All of those clanky medals ought to speak quietly of wisdom aquired.

So... you're of the opinion that this is all DCP's fault? That somehow he's responsible for someone else's choices?

harmony wrote:So... you're of the opinion that this is all DCP's fault? That somehow he's responsible for someone else's choices?

He is responsible only for his words. If that words initiate something twisted, then .. ehm .. can come the lawyers and psychoanalysts. Or can come his apology. (Anyway, He is an apologist, isn't He?


by the way, I have read somewhere that americans can not do anything (can do nothing??) without lawyers and psychoanalysts. There are the most of them, compared to the other parts of the world. Where are the psychoanalysts? They weren't mentioned in This Latter Days Of MDB Threads.

ludwigm wrote:

harmony wrote:So... you're of the opinion that this is all DCP's fault? That somehow he's responsible for someone else's choices?

He is responsible only for his words. If that words initiate something twisted, then .. ehm .. can come the lawyers and psychoanalysts. Or can come his apology. (Anyway, He is an apologist, isn't He?


by the way, I have read somewhere that americans can not do anything (can do nothing??) without lawyers and psychoanalysts. There are the most of them, compared to the other parts of the world. Where are the psychoanalysts? They weren't mentioned in This Latter Days Of MDB Threads.

That's because few here can admit that therapy would help them. There is a stigma attached to admitting to needing or having therapy. The old "I'm strong and don't need help" frontier thing. It's right up there with the old "I'm never wrong, except when I say so" thing.

harmony wrote:So... you're of the opinion that this is all DCP's fault? That somehow he's responsible for someone else's choices?

What was written that made you jump to this conclusion?

Some Schmo wrote:

harmony wrote:So... you're of the opinion that this is all DCP's fault? That somehow he's responsible for someone else's choices?

What was written that made you jump to this conclusion?

Karl's last paragraph.

harmony wrote: Karl's last paragraph.

Ah.

Well, I don’t know if Karl is of that opinion or not, but I think he makes a fair point. While GoodK is responsible for how he reacted, what danny boy did was pretty thoughtless and stupid.

But you know, I’m not surprised. While DCP should have perhaps known better, he has never really demonstrated that he does know better. In fact, were he still here, we know he'd still be defending his moronic actions, claiming it was an effective "test."

This is my two cents on all of this.

Dan was wrong in posting what he did about GoodK and calling it an experiment or test. He insinuated that Eric lied about being abused and stated other lies about him serving jail time, etc. He later recanted that any of it was true.

I took Dan to task, as did many other posters, for doing this.

I don't blame Eric for being angry and feeling the need to retaliate. Even the lawsuit threat was something that Eric, just like anyone else who is maligned in the good old USA, has a right to pursue if they have deep enough pockets and an attorney willing to take the case. Whether or not he could win is another matter.

Where Eric crossed the line was when he responded to Bob's tauntings by posting, and threatening to further post, personal information of Bob's that Bob had not freely revealed himself.

However, Eric was willing to respond to a dialogue with Shades and myself, and has agreed to not continue this type of behavior.

He is aware that any further behavior of this sort will result in a suspension of posting priviledges.

Therefore, from a Moderator standpoint, I consider the matter closed unless the behavior is repeated.

On a personal note, I will add that I really like Eric, and I do think that he is the victim of abuse.

I am also saddened that Dan has decided to no longer post with us, because he also has my friendship and respect. I will miss his perspective on the board, even though I didn't always agree with it.

What are you?

You post that 'DCP didn't.... follow his religion'

Is it just me or does this seem like an entirely childish and ignorant thing to say? The last time I heard this was in high school when some vociferous 'atheists' were walking past a man on a sidewalk shaking a can begging for change. They scornfully accused the Christian guy of not living his religion because he, as themselves, didn't give the man change. Yet they only berated the Christian. They didn't consider it an offense for theirselves, but they held the other person to a higher standard.

Sure, this is acceptable to do in our heads. But most of us are smart enough to keep it there. Most of us find farts funny too, but we keep it private. Not many of us actually openly fart and laugh in public. Your stupid topic is a stinky fart in the middle of an office meeting.