Of gay "marriage," virginity, and JSM's creepy fixation

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_Calculus Crusader
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Of gay "marriage," virginity, and JSM's creepy fixation

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Split from here.

JohnStuartMill wrote:The definitions of words change. It wasn't that long ago that your intellectual forebears were putting scare quotes around interracial "marriage," too.


There is no intellectual continuity between us, moron. Racial distinctions are artificial from a biological point of view. Men and women of different "races" do not produce sterile offspring or any of the other problems associated with the offspring of distinct species. By way of contrast, the distinction between men and women is biologically significant; their generative organs are complementary and each provides an integral part of the human zygote (among other biological differences).
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Re: Of gay "marriage," virginity, and JSM's creepy fixation

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Calculus Crusader wrote:Split from here.

JohnStuartMill wrote:The definitions of words change. It wasn't that long ago that your intellectual forebears were putting scare quotes around interracial "marriage," too.


There is no intellectual continuity between us, moron. Racial distinctions are artificial from a biological point of view. Men and women of different "races" do not produce sterile offspring or any of the other problems associated with the offspring of distinct species. By way of contrast, the distinction between men and women is biologically significant; their generative organs are complementary and each provides an integral part of the human zygote (among other biological differences).

I am confused. What does offspring have to do with sex? (other than the obvious)
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JohnStuartMill wrote:Those are awfully strong words coming from the 30-year-old virgin.


JohnStuartMill wrote:I'm down to hold hands in unity, but Calculus Crusader just PMed me to say that he's not, because he's worried that he'll get an erection.


Your interest in my sexual experiences and your fantasies about me having an erection are creepy.
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Re: Of gay "marriage," virginity, and JSM's creepy fixation

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Calculus Crusader wrote:
JohnStuartMill wrote:Those are awfully strong words coming from the 30-year-old virgin.


JohnStuartMill wrote:I'm down to hold hands in unity, but Calculus Crusader just PMed me to say that he's not, because he's worried that he'll get an erection.


Your interest in my sexual experiences and your fantasies about me having an erection are creepy.


Combined with your avatar, downright scary to think about it.
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Perhaps you are just too easy a target, CC. Dial back the homophobia a bit and the target on your back will shrink.
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harmony wrote:Perhaps you are just too easy a target, CC. Dial back the homophobia a bit and the target on your back will shrink.


Harmony, Darlin....
I have so much respect for you now, how high you scored on Justin Tames Scale on trustworthy side.
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Calculus Crusader wrote:There is no intellectual continuity between us, moron. Racial distinctions are artificial from a biological point of view. Men and women of different "races" do not produce sterile offspring or any of the other problems associated with the offspring of distinct species. By way of contrast, the distinction between men and women is biologically significant; their generative organs are complementary and each provides an integral part of the human zygote (among other biological differences).


There is no intellectual continuity in the above paragraph, from one set of words to the next. It is gruel of illogic.
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Re: Of gay "marriage," virginity, and JSM's creepy fixation

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Calculus Crusader wrote:Split from here.

JohnStuartMill wrote:The definitions of words change. It wasn't that long ago that your intellectual forebears were putting scare quotes around interracial "marriage," too.


There is no intellectual continuity between us, moron. Racial distinctions are artificial from a biological point of view. Men and women of different "races" do not produce sterile offspring or any of the other problems associated with the offspring of distinct species. By way of contrast, the distinction between men and women is biologically significant; their generative organs are complementary and each provides an integral part of the human zygote (among other biological differences).

Do you believe that post-menopausal women should be allowed to marry, cocklick? If you do, then your "biologically significant differences" argument is transparently insincere, because they can't complement a man's reproductive efforts any more than another man could. Q.E.D.

The intellectual continuity between you and the Brigham Youngs of the 19th century is clear. The anti-miscegenation bigots interpreted certain sections of the Bible as prohibiting interracial marriage and, for that reason, favored banning the practice in civil government. You interpret certain sections of the Bible as prohibiting same-sex marriage and, for that reason, favor banning the practice in civil government. There's not much of a distinction between the two positions.

The most salient points here are that the definition of marriage has expanded from its earlier limitations as a purely religious institution; that even if it had not, it's not proper for the government to prefer one interpretation of Scripture over another without a good public policy rationale; and that such a rationale has not been demonstrated. Everything else is gold plates and peepstones.
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Re: Of gay "marriage," virginity, and JSM's creepy fixation

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harmony wrote:Perhaps you are just too easy a target, CC. Dial back the homophobia a bit and the target on your back will shrink.

ding ding ding
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The Dude wrote:
Calculus Crusader wrote:There is no intellectual continuity between us, moron. Racial distinctions are artificial from a biological point of view. Men and women of different "races" do not produce sterile offspring or any of the other problems associated with the offspring of distinct species. By way of contrast, the distinction between men and women is biologically significant; their generative organs are complementary and each provides an integral part of the human zygote (among other biological differences).


There is no intellectual continuity in the above paragraph, from one set of words to the next. It is gruel of illogic.


Your facile dismissal is noted but, like JSM's political "science" degree, it amounts to nothing. You have to actually, you know, demonstrate the alleged intellectual discontinuities.
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