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Are Women More Spiritual Than Men?
Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 12:30 am
by _Brackite
LDS Bishop Bob sure does think so. Here is Part of one of his Posts, From the
'Mormonism's Greatest Downfall', Discussion Thread:
rcrocket wrote:
Plural marriage is an eternal principle. It is founded on the notion that there will be far fewer men who will accept the atoning sacrifice than women. It has to do, somehow, with the struggle in the Garden of Eden, the choice Eve made, and the promise that she would be saved in childbearing. I don't get it all, but the fact that women are more spiritual and willing to accept the spirit is a fact.
Is Plural Marriage (Polygyny) really an Eternal Principal? Are Women really more Spiritual and willing to accept the spirit than Men? Are there going to be a lot more Women than men within the Celestial Kingdom? Are men more likely to go to the Terrestial and/or Telestial Kingdoms? And if there are going to be a lot more women than men within the Celestial Kingdom, are the few men who are lucky enough to go into the Celestial Kingdom are going to have to enter into Polygamy?
Here is what Brigham Young stated:
The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy. Others attain unto a glory and may even be permitted to come into the presence of the Father and the Son; but they cannot reign as kings in glory, because they had blessing offered unto them, and they refused to accept them.
( Brigham Young: Journal of Discourses, Volume #11. ) What about the fact that there has been more males born than females born here on Planet Earth, and that there have been more males than females who have died before the age of eight Years old?
Now, Here is The Following important information, From About.com:
How many boys are born for every 100 girls?
There are 105 boy babies born for ever[y] 100 girl babies worldwide but scientists haven't determined why this sex ratio is so.
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Sex ratio:infant mortality rate:Well, Are There really going to be a lot more Females than Males within the Celestial Kingdom? And, Are Females on a whole, really a lot more Spiritual than Males?
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Re: Are Women More Spiritual Than Men?
Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 12:55 am
by _Ray A
Brackite wrote:Well, Are There really going to be a lot more Females than Males within the Celestial Kingdom? And, Are Females on a whole, really a lot more Spiritual than Males?
I probably would have said females are more spiritual before I became a braindead cab driver. But for the last two and a half years I've met and talked with hundreds of people, and had my eyes open to many things I never realised. I'd venture the controversial opinion that men are more "spiritual" (that word would have to be properly defined) than women, if by that you mean more introspective, more inclined to talk about "philosophical" or "religious" ideas, and worry less about practical things, including money. And they tip a helluva lot more than women!
I shouldn't laugh, because it is true, and this is where the practical side of women shows. They are more inclined to worry about money. Men tend to be "less worldly".
This of course is all anecdotal, but when a member of the Church, and even long after, I really thought it was the other way around. Now I don't.
Re: Are Women More Spiritual Than Men?
Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 12:59 am
by _harmony
It's all a cop out for men who are still jealous of woman's ability to create life, Brackie. The argument is more than a bit primitive. So they have to create a golden cage pedestal madonna in order to feel powerful.
It has nothing to do with God and everything to do with man. That's why it's relatively easy to figure out when a man is speaking as God's mouthpiece: God doesn't say stuff like Sec 132, most of the Old Testament, and virtually all of the Koran.
Re: Are Women More Spiritual Than Men?
Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 2:06 am
by _Brackite
Well, When I was a TBM, I believed that Females were more Spiritual than males. I remember being taught this in Church, and Polygamy in the Celestial Kingdom made sense to me. Now, I believe that males and Females are pretty much the same in Spirituality. Both females and males can be Good and Spiritual, and both females and males can be bad and evil. However, I do Not believe that there are going to be a lot more Females than males in the Celestial Kingdom (Kingdom of Heaven), Mainly because there are about 100 Females born for every 105 Males. And, I definitely do Not believe that Plural Marriage (Polygamy) is an eternal principle. I do believe in the Book of Mormon teachings on Polygamy, that Polygamy is truly an abomination before the Lord God.
Here is again Jacob Chapter Two, Verses 23 through 34:
Jacob 2:23-34:
23 But the word of God burdens me because of your grosser crimes. For behold, thus saith the Lord: This people begin to wax in iniquity; they understand not the scriptures, for they seek to excuse themselves in committing whoredoms, because of the things which were written concerning David, and Solomon his son.
24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.
33 For they shall not lead away captive the daughters of my people because of their tenderness, save I shall visit them with a sore curse, even unto destruction; for they shall not commit whoredoms, like unto them of old, saith the Lord of Hosts.
34 And now behold, my brethren, ye know that these commandments were given to our father, Lehi; wherefore, ye have known them before; and ye have come unto great condemnation; for ye have done these things which ye ought not to have done.
Re: Are Women More Spiritual Than Men?
Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 2:19 am
by _bcspace
Are Women More Spiritual Than Men?
Of course not. Their spirtuality is simply a different kind.
Re: Are Women More Spiritual Than Men?
Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 2:22 am
by _bcspace
I do believe in the Book of Mormon teachings on Polygamy, that Polygamy is truly an abomination before the Lord God.
So do I. But you conveniently forget Jacob 2:30 that God authorized plural marriage is not abominable at all.
Re: Are Women More Spiritual Than Men?
Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 2:24 am
by _harmony
bcspace wrote:So do I. But you conveniently forget Jacob 2:30 that God authorized plural marriage is not abominable at all.
And that has never happened.
Re: Are Women More Spiritual Than Men?
Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 2:35 am
by _bcspace
So do I. But you conveniently forget Jacob 2:30 that God authorized plural marriage is not abominable at all.
And that has never happened.
Depends on what scriptures you believe in. Obviously, I believe in D&C 132, but I also believe in 2 Samuel 12:7-11. It is impossible to truthfully claim to be a Bible believing Christian and not accept God-authorized plural marriage.
Re: Are Women More Spiritual Than Men?
Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 3:10 am
by _harmony
bcspace wrote:Depends on what scriptures you believe in. Obviously, I believe in D&C 132, but I also believe in 2 Samuel 12:7-11. It is impossible to truthfully claim to be a Bible believing Christian and not accept God-authorized plural marriage.
I, on the other hand, believe in God, not prophets (ancient or modern).
Re: Are Women More Spiritual Than Men?
Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 3:19 am
by _Brackite
bcspace wrote:I do believe in the Book of Mormon teachings on Polygamy, that Polygamy is truly an abomination before the Lord God.
So do I. But you conveniently forget Jacob 2:30 that God authorized plural marriage is not abominable at all.
Here is how Jacob Chapter Two, Verse 30 is Correctly interpreted and read:
[30] For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people [To Marry Monogamously]; otherwise they shall [will] hearken unto these things [The Sins of Polygamy].
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