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I've always wanted to know who Droopy is. I finally found him on the Net:

You Tube.

Another Kyle Chapman, in my opinion.

What's your opinion?

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moksha wrote:Clicking the link takes you to the Gmail page.

Thanks Mok. Try this: You Tube.

Opinions?

It's nice to see that fascism is alive and well in the nation of its birth. That man scared me. An interesting take on "history" as well. Aesj!

what's up with the props?

A glass of red wine on one hand, and a toilet jug and bowl on the other. Where is Freud when we need him.

That is not Droopy, because:

(a) Whatever you think of the views expressed, they are expressed in a fairly normal register of college-educated English, making allowances for age-group and taste.

(b) A devout LDS like Droopy would never violate the Word of Wisdom by having wine to hand while giving an address.

Ray A wrote:I've always wanted to know who Droopy is. I finally found him on the Net:

You Tube.

What's your opinion?

Ray,

I'll disagree with you here. Droopy is a Mormon apologist. He's a whitewasher of duplicitous and ilegal acts of the Mormon founders. He breeds chaos rather than peace.

The USA is a unique country. The Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights is at least inspired by good men. It's worth reading. It doesn't read like Mormon history. It gave the country a rock hard foundation to build upon. What you see now governing the US is not what the founders intended. And the consensus of it's founders had the citizens best interest in mind.

I agree with every point this passionate man has made in this 6 minute diatribe. It ought to be a privilege to live in a country that gives so much responsibility to maintain it's freedoms to it's citizenry.

19 Yea, well did Mosiah say, who was our last king, when he was about to deliver up the kingdom, having no one to confer it upon, causing that this people should be governed by their own voices—yea, well did he say that if the time should come that the voice of this people should choose iniquity, that is, if the time should come that this people should fall into transgression, they would be ripe for destruction.

(Book of Mormon | Alma 10:19)

If the USA continues to commit the iniquity of debt, diversity (rather than unity), injustices within it's courts, responsible encouragement rather than the doctrine of entitlements, it will cease to be the nation that provides freedom and security for it's citizens and a balance of good in our world.

Inconceivable wrote:If the USA continues to commit the iniquity of debt, diversity (rather than unity), injustices within it's courts, responsible encouragement rather than the doctrine of entitlements, it will cease to be the nation that provides freedom and security for it's citizens and a balance of good in our world.

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Yeah, if people would only agree with my position, then the USA could finally stop committing the iniquity of diversity.

Although actually my position is that we should not expect unity. People should be able to strongly disagree on many matters, even important matters such as abortion or stem-cell research. To some extent, I think that makes this nation great. I certainly prefer it over the forced "unity" of North Korea. It isn't without problems of course. I think there needs to be some limits to how we deal with diversity, but I don't think people should be any less passionate about causes they feel strongly about even when it is in opposition to the feelings of others. With that passion, I would simply ask that they attempt to understand the other side rather than simply screaming. It's hard of course. It's hard for me. But I still think it better than unity for the sake of unity. The United States as always believed in diversity--at least ever since the First Ammendment.

I think many people nowadays mistake balkanization for diversity.

Isn't this "Thomas Paine" the actor that Mormon super-fascist Glenn Beck got to do a throw-back to the terrible "You Were There" American history film strips you had to suffer through in elementary school to give his geriatric viewers a pleasant jolt of nostalgia?

I mean, you know it's supposed to be Thomas Paine because he's in costume and uses the phrase "common sense" repeatedly! Even the most neanderthal Fox News viewer can vaguely remember that was the name of the pamphlet he wrote, despite never having actually read it or any of the other founding documents of the country.

Never mind that the delightful right-wing anti-immigrant, anti-pluralism, white cultural supremacist/hegemonist clap trap he's preaching has nothing to do with Thomas Paine's actual ideas and writings let alone his life and times.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Paine

Please ignore the tired nonsense of using dead 18th-century historical figures to opine on the 21st century political climate.

It's all about using 4th rate "movie magic" to promote Glenn Beck's peculiar brand of scripted, kooky, regressive "libertarianism/anglo-nationalism."

I mean... you can't actually have "normal" people preaching this bile, but if you put an actor in costume or get a skin and bones blonde like Ann Coulter, you can spout the most poisonous rhetoric and the public eats it up.

Ahhh 2009: when corporate-sponsored Right-Wing "patriotism" goes viral. Simultaneous pure hilarity and a shameful exploitation to promote Right-Wing intolerance.