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Doctrine and Covenants Section 132: 38:


38 David also received many wives and concubines, and also Solomon and Moses my servants, as also many others of my servants, from the beginning of creation until this time; and in nothing did they sin save in those things which they received not of me.

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Why no concubines now? They aren't polygamy and per most laws these days in the US would not cause any legal problems. If it was good enough for David and company, why not Joseph, Tommy and the top Twelve?

Given the tradition of secrecy it wouldn't really surprise me if they had them and if they did MAD would defend them.

Concubines are pretty great, from what I've heard.

zzyzx wrote:Doctrine and Covenants Section 132: 38:


38 David also received many wives and concubines, and also Solomon and Moses my servants, as also many others of my servants, from the beginning of creation until this time; and in nothing did they sin save in those things which they received not of me.

supposedly this is God's voice. It is interesting that God would use the word "concubine" to describe these women, and then say David, Solomon, and Moses did not commit a sin. A concubine is a sex toy. And then God says he gave these guys their concubines.

DarkHelmet wrote:supposedly this is God's voice. It is interesting that God would use the word "concubine" to describe these women, and then say David, Solomon, and Moses did not commit a sin. A concubine is a sex toy. And then God says he gave these guys their concubines.

Try to remember that there is always a man between God and you. And them. And that man really really really doesn't like women.

JohnStuartMill wrote:Concubines are pretty great, from what I've heard.

Concubines are pretty great, from what I've experienced.

Where concubines occur (at least historically), they represent a second tier in the marriage system. Concubines were legal wives (which is to say they were married, usually with a marriage contract of some sort, and so on), however, being a concubine didn't extend all of the same kinds of benefits that a wife would get extending primarily to social status and inheritance rights for the children.

harmony wrote:

DarkHelmet wrote:supposedly this is God's voice. It is interesting that God would use the word "concubine" to describe these women, and then say David, Solomon, and Moses did not commit a sin. A concubine is a sex toy. And then God says he gave these guys their concubines.

Try to remember that there is always a man between God and you. And them. And that man really really really doesn't like women.

Actually, it's just a man's voice pretending it's a god's voice. And it sounds to me like he really really really likes women.

Some Schmo wrote:

harmony wrote:Try to remember that there is always a man between God and you. And them. And that man really really really doesn't like women.

Actually, it's just a man's voice pretending it's a god's voice. And it sounds to me like he really really really likes women.

Agree with the 1st statement, disagree with the second. If he really liked women, they'd be more than second tier wives, more than sex toys. They'd be respected individuals who were treated like equals. And that takes out the majority of men today, LDS leaders included.

harmony wrote:If he really liked women, they'd be more than second tier wives, more than sex toys. They'd be respected individuals who were treated like equals. And that takes out the majority of men today, LDS leaders included.

So your position is that the majority of men don't like women?