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I don't see why the whole debate. I would vote for Proposition 8.

Imwashingmypirate wrote:I would vote for Proposition 8.

Why?

Then, you haven't been listening to your Prophet now, have you?

Imwashingmypirate wrote:I don't see why the whole debate. I would vote for Proposition 8.

Religious freedom. Why should the government favor the Episcopalians' definition of marriage over the Mormons'? A vote for Prop 8 was a vote for inequality.

Religious freedom. Why should the government favor the Episcopalians' definition of marriage over the Mormons'? A vote for Prop 8 was a vote for inequality.

By your logic, not being able to marry a 16 year old girl or another woman is also an inequality. The bottom line is that there are no compelling reasons for the state to recognize gay marriages (which are otherwise not prevented in law).

bcspace wrote:The bottom line is that there are no compelling reasons for the state to recognize gay marriages (which are otherwise not prevented in law).

There are no compelling reasons for the state to recognize marriages among the elderly, either.

There are no compelling reasons for the state to recognize marriages among the elderly, either.

Tell that to a kid who's lost a grandfather or grandmother. The example that males and females should marry each other is compelling enough because that relationship is THE building block of society.

bcspace wrote:

Religious freedom. Why should the government favor the Episcopalians' definition of marriage over the Mormons'? A vote for Prop 8 was a vote for inequality.

By your logic, not being able to marry a 16 year old girl or another woman is also an inequality.

I'm in favor of legalized polygamy, actually, and I would prefer competency tests instead of age restrictions on young people.

The bottom line is that there are no compelling reasons for the state to recognize gay marriages (which are otherwise not prevented in law).

Nor is there any compelling reason to grant tax-exempt status to the LDS Church.

Nor is there any compelling reason to grant tax-exempt status to the LDS Church.

Religion seems to be compelling enough. But there are dozens of black democratic churches for example, that are actually close (in terms of the legal definition) to losing their status.

bcspace wrote:

There are no compelling reasons for the state to recognize marriages among the elderly, either.

Tell that to a kid who's lost a grandfather or grandmother.

I would be just as heartbroken if my gay uncle had died as I'd be if a grandparent had passed on. Would you, or does your bigotry extend even to your own family?

The example that males and females should marry each other is compelling enough because that relationship is THE building block of society.

For heterosexuals, sure. But what about people who are immutably gay? Do you want to force them into heterosexual marriages? And if long-term relationships are so great, why wouldn't we also want gay people to be in them?