The voyage of Lehi and Company

[_moksha]

Is it possible that during their voyage to the new world, Lehi and Company stopped at the Island of Cumora near the village of Moroni before sailing around Cape Horn and that both names got incorporated into the Reformed Egyptian list of possible names?

If so, would this not prove more compelling that the current proof of Nahom?


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[_Gadianton Plumber]

Is it possible that during their voyage to the new world, Lehi and Company stopped at the Island of Cumora near the village of Moroni before sailing around Cape Horn and that both names got incorporated into the Reformed Egyptian list of possible names?

If so, would this not prove more compelling that the current proof of Nahom?


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What's Nahom about?

[_moksha]

What's Nahom about?

I think it is somewhere mentioned in the Book of Mormon and a real place in Saudi Arabia has be found that bears a similar name, just like Moroni and Cumora (Cumorah).

I never hear these two mentioned as proof for the veracity of the Book of Mormon. What gives?

[_Nevo]

Is it possible that during their voyage to the new world, Lehi and Company stopped at the Island of Cumora near the village of Moroni before sailing around Cape Horn and that both names got incorporated into the Reformed Egyptian list of possible names?

The Wikipedia entries for "Comoros" and "Moroni, Comoros" seem to indicate that the names derive from Arabic. The earliest known Arab settlements on the islands date to the 1400s, about 2,000 years too late for contact with Lehi's party.

[_zzyzx]

The names were made up by Laman and Lemuel as they tried to distance themselves from Nephi, a felon fleeing charges of home invasion burglary and murder. They tried almost anything possible to get away from the murderous brother who somehow found favor with his parents in spite of his violent ways. Or maybe it was because the parents were afraid of a kid who would kill for some cheezy records which he probably made his brothers carry. (he did bring back the bloodstained sword, didn't he?)

[_AlmaBound]

Is it possible that during their voyage to the new world, Lehi and Company stopped at the Island of Cumora near the village of Moroni before sailing around Cape Horn and that both names got incorporated into the Reformed Egyptian list of possible names?

Pretty interesting, little penguin.

We could take it a step further and compare the similarities between the American Indian place names - Oneida/Onidah, Rama/Ramah (and the rest of the Vernal Holley study) to their Book of Mormon counterparts.

Since the book involves the origins of the American Indians, it seems compellingly obvious to me that the ancient place names used by those Indians would be retained, albeit with varied spellings. Especially when you consider some of the earliest missionary efforts included evangelism to the American Indians.

I confess, however, that I'm not well-read in the whole LGT/mesoamerican thing. Maybe there is an old Mexican village called Zerhemlixa that I'm unaware of.

[_moksha]

Is it possible that during their voyage to the new world, Lehi and Company stopped at the Island of Cumora near the village of Moroni before sailing around Cape Horn and that both names got incorporated into the Reformed Egyptian list of possible names?

The Wikipedia entries for "Comoros" and "Moroni, Comoros" seem to indicate that the names derive from Arabic. The earliest known Arab settlements on the islands date to the 1400s, about 2,000 years too late for contact with Lehi's party.

However, Lehi and company traveled through the Arabian peninsula. This could serve as further proof that the Arabic culture had some of its place names influenced by the Lehites (along with the name Nahom) as did the native culture of the Indian Ocean island in question.

We could take it a step further and compare the similarities between the American Indian place names - Oneida/Onidah, Rama/Ramah (and the rest of the Vernal Holley study) to their Book of Mormon counterparts.

Good point Almabound, these American Indian place names could well have sprung from the Lehite place names for the areas you mentioned. Proof galore.

[_AlmaBound]

Good point Almabound, these American Indian place names could well have sprung from the Lehite place names for the areas you mentioned. Proof galore.

Seems obvious to me. However, I think the whole mesoamerican thing throws a wrench in what might otherwise be considered a rather substantial "hit," or multiple hits for that matter, within the book.

There are some problems, though, in place locations and official town names, but nothing that can't be attributed to confusion during a "loose" translation process.

What I don't understand is why there would be a problem with locating the Book of Mormon stories in upstate New York and the vicinity thereabouts. Is there some crushing blow associated with ascribing certain events in the book to that location?

[_moksha]

What I don't understand is why there would be a problem with locating the Book of Mormon stories in upstate New York and the vicinity thereabouts. Is there some crushing blow associated with ascribing certain events in the book to that location?

Almabound, these are more good points. Another indicator for upstate New York, is that the plates were buried there and not in some MesoAmerican hillside after the final battle. The existence of the nearly identical place names would cease to be evidence for the Book of Mormon and would become indicators of some sort of hoax instead. Who would want that?

[_Nevo]

However, Lehi and company traveled through the Arabian peninsula. This could serve as further proof that the Arabic culture had some of its place names influenced by the Lehites (along with the name Nahom) as did the native culture of the Indian Ocean island in question.

No, it couldn't. Classical Arabic wasn't spoken in the areas that Lehi and company traveled through.

Classical Arabic has its origins in the central and northern parts of the Arabian Peninsula, and is distinct from Old South Arabian languages that were spoken in the southern parts of the peninsula, modern day Yemen. The oldest inscription so far discovered in Classical Arabic goes back to 328 CE and is known as the Namārah inscription, written in the Nabataean alphabet and named after the place where it was found in southern Syria in April 1901 by two French archaeologists, René Dussaud and Frédéric Macler. (Wikipedia)