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Official origins of the Temple Ceremony?
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:11 am
by _mormonmessages
What is the origins of the temple ceremony?
Are the origins taught at all?
Given how important it is to our theology, why is it not recorded in our canon?
I have heard it went through changes, may we discuss those here?
Re: Official origins of the Temple Ceremony?
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:18 am
by _The Nehor
mormonmessages wrote:What is the origins of the temple ceremony?
Joseph Smith created it under the inspiration of God.
Are the origins taught at all?
Yes, see above.
Given how important it is to our theology, why is it not recorded in our canon?
Our theology? You believe it? It's not recorded to keep it from becoming common.
I have heard it went through changes, may we discuss those here?
You can, but most LDS won't participate.
Re: Official origins of the Temple Ceremony?
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:32 am
by _mormonmessages
The Nehor wrote:mormonmessages wrote:What is the origins of the temple ceremony?
Joseph Smith created it under the inspiration of God.
How vague. I've heard it originated from his involvement in Free Masonry. Why is that not part of the history?
Given how important it is to our theology, why is it not recorded in our canon?
The Nehor wrote:Our theology? You believe it? It's not recorded to keep it from becoming common.
Show me where that is recorded.
I have heard it went through changes, may we discuss those here?
The Nehor wrote:You can, but most LDS won't participate.
Why?
Additionally, please point me to the scripture which details the temple ceremony during the time of Christ.
Re: Official origins of the Temple Ceremony?
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:47 am
by _The Nehor
mormonmessages wrote:How vague. I've heard it originated from his involvement in Free Masonry. Why is that not part of the history?
Because there is no official history. Joseph never wrote down when it was revealed or how. If you want to speculate, feel free. Part of what history????
Show me where that is recorded.
Read any General Conference talk that discusses the Temple and why we don't share it.
Why?
Because they take their covenants seriously.
Additionally, please point me to the scripture which details the temple ceremony during the time of Christ.
Sure, it's in Jerome's Appendix to the Apocrypha 1:54.
Wow, did you get these questions for a website?
Re: Official origins of the Temple Ceremony?
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:09 am
by _mormonmessages
The Nehor wrote:Because there is no official history. Joseph never wrote down when it was revealed or how. If you want to speculate, feel free. Part of what history????
So how can we be sure it is accurate temple to temple if it is not recorded??
Part of the history of the church, silly boy.
Sure, it's in Jerome's Appendix to the Apocrypha 1:54.
Why not just quote it here Nehor.
Wow, did you get these questions for a website?
No, I am not getting these questions for a website. Why would you ask that?
Re: Official origins of the Temple Ceremony?
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:28 pm
by _The Nehor
mormonmessages wrote:The Nehor wrote:Because there is no official history. Joseph never wrote down when it was revealed or how. If you want to speculate, feel free. Part of what history????
So how can we be sure it is accurate temple to temple if it is not recorded??
Part of the history of the church, silly boy.
It is recorded. It's written down in the Temples. The process of getting it is not written down.
Sure, it's in Jerome's Appendix to the Apocrypha 1:54.
Why not just quote it here Nehor.
Please tell me you're joking here....
Wow, did you get these questions for a website?
No, I am not getting these questions for a website. Why would you ask that?
Because they're insipid and contribute nothing and either you (as LDS) have a rather bizarre set of interests or you're trying to trap LDS with these cute questions that sound oh so clever to you.
Re: Official origins of the Temple Ceremony?
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:08 pm
by _karl61
I read a great book called The Mysteries of Godliness A HISTORY OF Mormon TEMPLE WORSHIP
by David John Buerger.
He relies on journals and letters and pieces together the different ceremonies beginning with the washings and anointing s at the Kirtland Temple. There are letters from the president of the church telling temple presidents to change this to this stop this, and this will remain. Usually the U.S. citizens are angry about something and the Church quietly changes it.
also see this link for a good discussion and you need to go to the top and read down. You should be a scholar when you get through.
http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/05/26/e ... ent-138264
Re: Official origins of the Temple Ceremony?
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:52 am
by _mentalgymnast
karl61 wrote:I read a great book called The Mysteries of Godliness A HISTORY OF Mormon TEMPLE WORSHIP
by David John Buerger.
He relies on journals and letters and pieces together the different ceremonies beginning with the washings and anointing s at the Kirtland Temple. There are letters from the president of the church telling temple presidents to change this to this stop this, and this will remain. Usually the U.S. citizens are angry about something and the Church quietly changes it.
also see this link for a good discussion and you need to go to the top and read down. You should be a scholar when you get through.
http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/05/26/e ... ent-138264
Thanks for that link! A lot of reading, but well worth it. I hope the original poster on this thread takes the time to read it...
Regards,
MG
Re: Official origins of the Temple Ceremony?
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:02 am
by _Gazelam
For a rich history regarding the Temple I would recommend Hugh Nibleys incredible book "Temple and Cosmos".