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Adultery, how long til you are OK again?
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:27 am
by _zzyzx
Joseph Smith prompts this one. His bedding Fannie Alger, Oliver calling it a 'filthy affair' and Joseph not having "the Keys" for sealing in plural marriage at the time... it must be Adultery.
How long after committing adultery are you OK with all the inspiration, revelation, church stuff and whatnot? Did Joseph lose anything for a day, a week, a month or a few years? Did he stop getting inspiration and revelation while following his magic wand to Fannies place?
If I or friends commit adultery, how long until all is OK once again? A week or longer? Does it depend on who the babe is? If I have a higher church calling is it quicker than if I am a lowly peon? Is it faster if I pay a lot of tithing?
Apparently Joseph suffered nothing but Oliver calling him a dirtbag. For the right babe... maybe I could live with that?
Re: Adultery, how long til you are OK again?
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:39 am
by _Gadianton Plumber
I hear that SOME Mormons get exed if they do such.
Re: Adultery, how long til you are OK again?
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:12 am
by _bcspace
Joseph Smith prompts this one. His bedding Fannie Alger
CFR
Re: Adultery, how long til you are OK again?
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:23 am
by _Uncle Dale
zzyzx wrote:...
If I or friends commit adultery, how long until all is OK once again?
...
If I'm reading D&C 132 correctly,
you must be destroyed.
But I guess that is only with Sisters of the Church -- nothing said about doing the
same with a Gentile wench.
UD
Re: Adultery, how long til you are OK again?
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:50 am
by _The Nehor
You really should establish that there was adultery before figuring out consequences.
Re: Adultery, how long til you are OK again?
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:15 am
by _moksha
bcspace wrote:Joseph Smith prompts this one. His bedding Fannie Alger
CFR
Yes, where are the lithographs!
Re: Adultery, how long til you are OK again?
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:30 pm
by _TAK
bcspace wrote:Joseph Smith prompts this one. His bedding Fannie Alger
CFR
Emma Smith witnessed Jos. and Fanny in a barn..
Re: Adultery, how long til you are OK again?
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:38 pm
by _harmony
zzyzx wrote:Joseph Smith prompts this one. His bedding Fannie Alger, Oliver calling it a 'filthy affair' and Joseph not having "the Keys" for sealing in plural marriage at the time... it must be Adultery.
How long after committing adultery are you OK with all the inspiration, revelation, church stuff and whatnot? Did Joseph lose anything for a day, a week, a month or a few years? Did he stop getting inspiration and revelation while following his magic wand to Fannies place?
If I or friends commit adultery, how long until all is OK once again? A week or longer? Does it depend on who the babe is? If I have a higher church calling is it quicker than if I am a lowly peon? Is it faster if I pay a lot of tithing?
Apparently Joseph suffered nothing but Oliver calling him a dirtbag. For the right babe... maybe I could live with that?
The apologist response is going to be there was no adultery.
The critic response to your question is Joseph never repented.
The answer to your question about yourself or your friends is... you are never forgiven. You are ex'ed. And then if you are sufficiently repentent, you can be rebaptised after you've groveled enough.
Re: Adultery, how long til you are OK again?
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:46 pm
by _The Nehor
TAK wrote:Emma Smith witnessed Jos. and Fanny in a barn..
According to others, not Emma.
Re: Adultery, how long til you are OK again?
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:19 pm
by _TAK
The Nehor wrote:
According to others, not Emma.
Emma was a liar like her husband. I can see her complaining to close confidents about Joe’s dalliances with young women to which there are several stories of that happening vs her public denials about polygamy. Warren Parish also witnessed it.
The likelihood is he did.