Do Christians tacitly support Gay bashing?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Hello Everyone,

On another thread I gave Ms. Jersey Girl two opportunities to denounce, unequivocally, Mr. Gaz's desire to kill his sister and displace a potential gay son or daughter. She declined the offer. This was a very eye opening moment for me. I did not realize Christians and Mormons were as united in their hatred for homosexuals as demonstrated by the now locked thread.

Ms. Beastie made a good analogy reference Mr. Gaz catching his child in the act of heterosexual sex, and inferring the punishment would not be the same if it were homosexual sex. This is very curious. Why the difference in attitude toward these two sins? Why do Christians have such a deep hatred for homosexuals? It is a mystery to me.

Very Respectfully,

Doctor CamNC4Me

[_Yoda]

Christians(and I am including Mormons in this category) should most certainly not hate homosexuals. I certainly do not. Two of my very best friends are gay. My closest friend, in particular, has been the victim of a hate crime, and he basically quit his job because of it.

Jesus loved the sinner, but hated the sin. When the adulteress was about to be stoned, he simply told her to "go and sin no more".

If we are following Christ's example, we should not judge, but love everyone.

Not condoning certain behavior in your home and hating someone are two very different things.

I will discuss this further later this evening. I'm off to a meeting.

Great topic! :)

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Hello Ms. Liz,

The dichotomy in many-a-Christian psyche is puzzling to me. They are told, in no uncertain terms to love their fellow men, forgive their fellow men, and to embrace the sinner. As another poster pointed out Jesus Christ spent his time among the "scags", and other undesirables in society. I do not recall Him telling His followers to drown anyone, nor turn anyone out. I have to wonder where is it, exactly, do Christians get their doctrinal mandate to hate homosexuals to such an extent?

Very Respectfully,

Doctor CamNC4Me

[_Scottie]

I don't know of any Christian church that teaches to treat gays this way. Sure, there may be rogue pastors or priests that may teach this, but I don't think they are teaching the doctrines of the religion.

So I'm not sure that your call for doctrinal support is warranted. People are people and as people are wont to do, they hate those who they have been taught to hate.

I remember growing up, I hated Russians. Why? Simply because my parents and peers told me Russia was bad. The whole arms race and communism and all. I believe that people hate gays for no other reason than they are told they should hate gays by others who hate gays. It is very easy to use religion and God for their hatred, but it is a cop out.

[_RockSlider]

I think it would be interesting to look a bit closer at age groups here. I look back upon my own homophobic responses and then also look at church teachings to see if that was the main cause of my homophobia.

Of course the church has always held a stand against homosexuality, however the strong feelings of hate/fear against it might have other sources.

In my case I believe it was picked up more from a social teaching. When I was young and in school the worse thing you could be called was a fag, queer, sissy etc. I think that the work ethic etc of the Baby Boomer generation pushed the same concepts (man up).

You have to remember that in the 50's a divorced woman was a whore. The free sex of the 60's was implied heterosexual, all through the 70's homosexuality was still relegated to the closet.

I believe American society was generally homophobic up until the 80's when people started to "come out".

And here's a politically incorrect statement for you.

My brother-in-law is a homosexual. He is also a slimy dirt bag, total waste of a human being that does nothing but suck the life out of anything he comes in contact with.

And this has nothing to do with his homosexuality.

I tire of hearing the old "oh my best friend is a homosexual, and they are so kind/loving/wonderful". Seems to be used a lot by those wanting/needed to show/prove they are not homophobic.

Hell they are just people like you and me ... move on .... nothing to see here.

[_Scottie]

My brother-in-law is a homosexual. He is also a slimy dirt bag, total waste of a human being that does nothing but suck the life out of anything he comes in contact with.

Agreed. I have an ex-sister-in-law who is gay, and she is a waste of resources. She steals, lies, is addicted to pain pills, drugs, etc, etc.

[_TAK]

It’s not surprising that there is a hatred towards these people.. Historically LDS leaders have vilified homosexuals comparing them to child molesters, and drug abusers ..

The most obvious are sexual promiscuity, homosexuality, drug abuse, alcoholism, vandalism, pornography, and violence. Thus, the term “alternative life-style” is used to justify adultery and homosexuality, “freedom of choice” to justify abortion, “meaningful relationship” and “self-fulfillment” to justify sex outside of marriage.

vandalism?? LOL!

We see attempts at legalization of drugs, abortion, homosexuality, and other compromising, drifting philosophies.

The American Psychiatric Association recently voted to remove homosexuality from its list of disorders, even though one study showed that 50 percent of the male homosexuals surveyed in one American city had had at least 500 sexual partners and 28 percent had had 1,000 partners. Can you see why they plead with us to avoid drugs, alcohol, vulgar music, and the other products of the carnal environment that now surround us almost as water surrounds the fish of the sea?

There are lesbian women, as well as homosexual men, in the Church. Some are themselves dependent on alcohol or on either legal prescription or illegal drugs.

We are against those things that destroy the home and the family, such as abortion, homosexuality, promiscuity, alcohol, drugs, violence, and unwarranted divorce. It is because of our reverence for this commandment that we also have feelings against the “slow death” that many individuals inflict upon themselves through the use of drugs, alcohol, and other mind- and body-destroying stimulants..

President Ezra Taft Benson said, “The plaguing sin of this generation is sexual immorality.” 10 The Lord said, “Thou shalt not … commit adultery, … nor do anything like unto it.” 11 That means we are to avoid abnormal sexual behavior, including fornication, homosexual behavior, child molestation, or any other perversion of God’s plan of happiness

[_RockSlider]

Driving to work and contemplating this topic … I became more irritated, so I’ll share.

It seems that around the year 2000, that it was estimated between 1 and 3 percent of the American population has homosexual. I assume many have “come out” since then and the estimated percentages have risen, but I still assume that these would be minority percentages.

What I don’t get is how homosexuality became such a politically correct thing. There seems to be some implied intellectual and spiritual high-ground held only by those that embrace homosexuality. Anyone not embracing it is somehow a lesser human being.

Hopefully I’ve grown past my old days of true homophobia, having a live and let live attitude towards it. However, I’m a happy heterosexual (like the majority of the population) and I don’t appreciate having everything from PC pressure to actual legislation being pushed on me constantly on this front.

Good hell live your own life and let me live mine … without your minority values being forced upon me.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Hello Mr. Rock Slider,

How are homosexuals "pushing" their values onto you?

Very Respectfully,

DoctorCamNC4me

[_Scottie]

Driving to work and contemplating this topic … I became more irritated, so I’ll share.

It seems that around the year 2000, that it was estimated between 1 and 3 percent of the American population has homosexual. I assume many have “come out” since then and the estimated percentages have risen, but I still assume that these would be minority percentages.

What I don’t get is how homosexuality became such a politically correct thing. There seems to be some implied intellectual and spiritual high-ground held only by those that embrace homosexuality. Anyone not embracing it is somehow a lesser human being.

Hopefully I’ve grown past my old days of true homophobia, having a live and let live attitude towards it. However, I’m a happy heterosexual (like the majority of the population) and I don’t appreciate having everything from PC pressure to actual legislation being pushed on me constantly on this front.

Good hell live your own life and let me live mine … without your minority values being forced upon me.

**Time warp back to the 60's**
What I don’t get is how race became such a politically correct thing. There seems to be some implied intellectual and spiritual high-ground held only by those that embrace equality in blacks. Anyone not embracing it is somehow a lesser human being.

Uhh... ya, you ARE a lesser human being if you hate gays. You are also a lesser human being if you hate people based on race, gender, political affiliation, nationality, religion, etc. Lets evolve.

From everything I see, most gays just want to be able to live their life without everyone else forcing their morals onto them. Sure, there are the militant psycho gays who are out of control, but they are the vocal minority.