MADB--Why many of its members have no credibility with me

[_Tchild]

1. I couldn't get away with it at MAD.

I disagree. Your uncivility and intolerance on the MAD boards is as equally offense as it is here. You probably are just too dim witted, or mentally slow, or engrossed in hurting small animals, to realize your hypocrisy. You good sir, are a bonafide douchebag.

2. I don't want to treat people that way at MAD. I don't feel like doing it there. The environment there is not conducive to bringing that side of me out to expression.

But you like to treat People here with disdain and disrespect? At least Pahoran is honest in his civil depravity no matter where he finds himself, on MAD, on Mormon discussions or at an orphanage. Pahoran is like the north star for his inhospitable, hostile and hateful tone and rhetoric. You can set your compass to his viperous, virulent and vitriolic manner.

You droopy, on the other hand, are merely a hypocrite that resembles a vaginal cleanser.

[_Pahoran]

1. I couldn't get away with it at MAD.

I disagree. Your uncivility and intolerance on the MAD boards is as equally offense as it is here. You probably are just too dim witted, or mentally slow, or engrossed in hurting small animals, to realize your hypocrisy. You good sir, are a bonafide douchebag.

2. I don't want to treat people that way at MAD. I don't feel like doing it there. The environment there is not conducive to bringing that side of me out to expression.

But you like to treat People here with disdain and disrespect? At least Pahoran is honest in his civil depravity no matter where he finds himself, on MAD, on Mormon discussions or at an orphanage. Pahoran is like the north star for his inhospitable, hostile and hateful tone and rhetoric. You can set your compass to his viperous, virulent and vitriolic manner.

You droopy, on the other hand, are merely a hypocrite that resembles a vaginal cleanser.

And this from the fellow who whiiiiiined incessantly about me calling him "Tkid."

The mind boggles.

Tkid's idea of "inhospitable, hostile and hateful tone and rhetoric:" calling him "Tkid."

Tkid's idea of civil discourse:

You probably are just too dim witted, or mentally slow, or engrossed in hurting small animals, to realize your hypocrisy. You good sir, are a bonafide douchebag.... Pahoran is honest in his civil depravity... at an orphanage.... You droopy, on the other hand, are merely a hypocrite that resembles a vaginal cleanser.

Well, here's a clue for you, so now you will at last have one: nobody could get away with saying such things on MA&DB. And that -- contrary to the brazen lies that are told around here -- includes me.

And when it comes to "viperous, virulent and vitriolic manner," we all stand humbled in the shadow of your greatness. We are strictly amateur hour compared to you.

A word to the wise, though: the barefaced lies are simple overkill. You have no good-faith basis to believe that Droopy hurts small animals or that I am unkind to orphans. Such intentionally false accusations merely bring your own character into focus.

And now that the mud -- and, er, other stuff -- is getting close to the top of my gumboots, I think I am done here for a while.

So, my farewell greeting to you all:

Sooooo-eee!

[_Doctor Scratch]

You have no good-faith basis to believe that Droopy hurts small animals or that I am unkind to orphans. Such intentionally false accusations merely bring your own character into focus.

Hi there, Pahoran. I realize that you're "leaving," but I just thought it odd that you'd dispense this "holier than thou" type of advice. "Merely bring your own character into focus"? You're kidding, right? I know that I haven't forgotten that you are the one who told a suicidal person that he "deserved it", due to his having left the Church. I've yet to see that level of callousness from the likes of Tchild. I hope that you've repented and asked Heavenly Father for forgiveness for your brazenly disgusting and inhumane behavior. Perhaps you aren't "unkind" to orphans, but you are definitely "unkind" to people contemplating suicide.

[_thews]

Pahoran--I realize I may be extra sensitive on this topic considering my personal circumstances. So if I have been unfair in characterizing your position, I apologize. If you agree with Elder Oaks that the Church has presented only a favorable view of its history, and failed to deal with the unfavorable, then I take back my comment that you are in denial of these facts.

Naturally the Church has put on its best face when describing its history, particularly in a "Sunday School" type of setting.

I don't think anyone has denied that.

As you pointed out in your post, little kids aren't ready for concepts like men in their 40's marrying little girls 14 and 15 years of age... it is too much. Probably too much to attempt to explain to a child the difference between "White and delightsome" vs. "Dark and loathsome" too isn't it?

The fact remains, however, that there isn't anything that is "covered up." I told my primary children about plural marriage, the Expositor, and the fact that Joseph had, and used, a gun in Carthage Jail. I told them those things, not because I am a Consiglieri wannabe, but because they were in the manual.

But you didn't tell them about the failed Kirkland bank did you which was a contributor in Joseph Smith being sought by "evil men" did you? You didn't tell them about Joseph Smith giving the young girls 24 hours to accept his proposal of marriage or risk damning her entire family did you? Did you tell them about the charges brough on by William Law when Joseph Smith tried to seduce his wife? Did you tell them that the source of the Book of Abraham is the pagan book of the dead? Did you tell them about magic and Masonic rituals?

Did I explore all the little factoids that anti-Mormons find so titillating? Of course not. Did I dwell endlessly on them? No.

You know what "anti-Mormon" is ...anything that tells the truth and sheds light on what the Mormon church hides. Care to answer a question.... why does the Mormon church keep the papyrus Joseph Smith used to "translate" the Book of Abraham locked away with the Egyptian Alphabet and Grammar and receipts signed by Emma Smith verifying all them all as the ones he used? Why does the Mormon church keep these documents hidden from its members... because it proves Joseph Smith was a fraud. Wanna prove me wrong? Give me one lnk from an LDS site that shows them.

But they were there, so I mentioned them.

Only enough to appease them when they hear it on their own.

And I find the claim that the Church "covers up" its history to be false.

Regards,
Pahoran

Then link me to a LDS site showing the papyrus & EAG. We know they exist and can been seen outside of the LDS church's sites... please provide a link.

[_harmony]

You have no good-faith basis to believe that Droopy hurts small animals or that I am unkind to orphans. Such intentionally false accusations merely bring your own character into focus.

Hi there, Pahoran. I realize that you're "leaving,"...

Of course he's leaving. It's one of the things he does best.

I hope that you've repented and asked Heavenly Father for forgiveness for your brazenly disgusting and inhumane behavior.

We know this has not happened because we know the repentence process requires that the individual ask forgiveness of the injured one.

[_Jason Bourne]

Third request:

What controversial historical issues does the Church voluntarily disclose in things it publishes? List five that can be found in SS, RS/Priesthood and/or Seminary and Institute manuals.


Am I too assume the silence from Pahoran, BC, Droopy, Why me, or anyone means that the Church really does not voluntarily disclose controversial historical issues in its manuals?