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Given my study of the Millerites, I found CT's Bible-numbers-game to be laughable.CaliforniaKid wrote:Polygamy-Porter wrote:1. Runtu
2. Kevin Graham
3. Ray A
4. Paul O
I started dialoguing with most of these guys after they had changed teams. (Same with Mike Reed.) But I used to debate Chris Tolworthy on his old message board. As an evangelical, I actually found his Bible-numbers-game fairly compelling.
Ferchissakes Gaz, he did finally get his head on straight and he is back home. Reality is home, free thinking is home, living his life for when his is ALIVE and NOT DEAD is HOME.Gazelam wrote:Paul,
The way you defend masturbation and homosexuality, I thought you were already out of the church. I wasn't sure, and I assumed you were just acting out due to your divorce.
I hope you get your head straight eventually and come back home. Sorry your life is such a mess right now.
Gazelam
Gazelam wrote:Paul,
The way you defend masturbation and homosexuality, I thought you were already out of the church. I wasn't sure, and I assumed you were just acting out due to your divorce.
I hope you get your head straight eventually and come back home. Sorry your life is such a mess right now.
Gazelam
"Brother Cannon remarked that people wondered how many wives and children I had. He may inform them, that I shall have wives and children by the million, and glory, and riches and power and dominion, and kingdom after kingdom, and reign triumphantly,"
(LDS President and Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 8, p. 178.)
He might start masturbating?Ray A wrote:
The real problem, Gazelam, is that you are yet to realize that what's really perverted is your religious view. If your wife declared tomorrow that she no longer believed in Mormonism, what would you do?
"Supposing that I have a wife or a dozen of them, and she should say, 'You cannot be exalted without me,' and suppose they all should say so, what of that? . . . Suppose that I lose the whole of them before I go into the spirit world, but that I have been a good, faithful man . . . do you think I will be destitute there. No, the Lord says there are more there than there are here . . . there are millions of them. . . . we will go to brother Joseph (Smith - ed.) and say, 'Here we are brother Joseph; we are here ourselves are we not, with none of the property we possessed in our probationary state, not even the rings on our fingers"' He will say to us, 'Come along, my boys, we will give you a good suit of clothes. Where are your wives?' 'They are back yonder; they would not follow us.' 'Never mind,' says Joseph. 'Here are thousands, have all you want,'"
(LDS First Presidency Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, p. 209.)
Yabut, dontchaknow that the mainstreamed revelation of social norms has nulled this out?Ray A wrote:Straight from the Mormon "wife-factory":"Supposing that I have a wife or a dozen of them, and she should say, 'You cannot be exalted without me,' and suppose they all should say so, what of that? . . . Suppose that I lose the whole of them before I go into the spirit world, but that I have been a good, faithful man . . . do you think I will be destitute there. No, the Lord says there are more there than there are here . . . there are millions of them. . . . we will go to brother Joseph (Smith - ed.) and say, 'Here we are brother Joseph; we are here ourselves are we not, with none of the property we possessed in our probationary state, not even the rings on our fingers"' He will say to us, 'Come along, my boys, we will give you a good suit of clothes. Where are your wives?' 'They are back yonder; they would not follow us.' 'Never mind,' says Joseph. 'Here are thousands, have all you want,'"
(LDS First Presidency Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, p. 209.)