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Francis Farmer's "God Dies"

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:13 am
by _Gazelam
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Frances Elena Farmer (September 19, 1913 – August 1, 1970) was an famous actress in the golden years of hollywood. She led a controversial life as a hollywood star that refused to live according to the hollywood "factory" system that wanted her to play the screen idol role by dating other celebrities for tabloid photos and wearing designer clothing when in public. Her independent streak began early; In 1931, while attending West Seattle High School, she entered and won $100 from The Scholastic Art & Writing Awards, a writing contest sponsored by Scholastic Magazine with her controversial essay God Dies. It was a precocious attempt to reconcile her wish for, in her words, a "superfather" God, with her observations of a chaotic, seemingly godless, world.

"God Dies" the controversial high school essay written by her in 1931.:

No one ever came to me and said, "You're a fool. There isn't such a thing as God. Somebody's been stuffing you." It wasn't a murder. I think God just died of old age. And when I realized that he wasn't any more, it didn't shock me. It seemed natural and right.

Maybe it was because I was never properly impressed with a religion. I went to Sunday school and liked the stories about Christ and the Christmas star. They were beautiful. They made you warm and happy to think about. But I didn't believe them. The Sunday School teacher talked too much in the way our grade school teacher used to when she told us about George Washington. Pleasant, pretty stories, but not true.

Religion was too vague. God was different. He was something real, something I could feel. But there were only certain times when I could feel it. I used to lie between cool, clean sheets at night after I'd had a bath, after I had washed my hair and scrubbed my knuckles and finger nails and teeth. Then I could lie quite still in the dark with my face to the window with the trees in it, and talk to God. "I am clean, now. I've never been as clean. I'll never be cleaner." And somehow, it was God. I wasn't sure that it was … just something cool and dark and clean.

That wasn't religion, though. There was too much of the physical about it. I couldn't get that same feeling during the day, with my hands in dirty dish water and the hard sun showing up the dirtiness on the roof-tops. And after a time, even at night, the feeling of God didn't last. I began to wonder what the minister meant when he said, "God, the father, sees even the smallest sparrow fall. He watches over all his children." That jumbled it all up for me. But I was sure of one thing. If God were a father, with children, that cleanliness I had been feeling wasn't God. So at night, when I went to bed, I would think, "I am clean. I am sleepy." And then I went to sleep. It didn't keep me from enjoying the cleanness any less. I just knew that God wasn't there. He was a man on a throne in Heaven, so he was easy to forget.

Sometimes I found he was useful to remember; especially when I lost things that were important. After slamming through the house, panicky and breathless from searching, I could stop in the middle of a room and shut my eyes. "Please God, let me find my red hat with the blue trimmings." It usually worked. God became a super-father that couldn't spank me. But if I wanted a thing badly enough, he arranged it.

That satisfied me until I began to figure that if God loved all his children equally, why did he bother about my red hat and let other people lose their fathers and mothers for always? I began to see that he didn't have much to do about hats, people dying or anything. They happened whether he wanted them to or not, and he stayed in heaven and pretended not to notice. I wondered a little why God was such a useless thing. It seemed a waste of time to have him. After that he became less and less, until he was... nothingness.

I felt rather proud to think that I had found the truth myself, without help from any one. It puzzled me that other people hadn't found out, too. God was gone. We were younger. We had reached past him. Why could't they see it? It still puzzles me.


I find it interesting that she had evidence through the Holy Ghost, but she did not have the spiritual education to know what to do with that information. Very sad.

Wikipedia entry on her life: Here

Re: Francis Farmer's "God Dies"

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:41 am
by _Nightlion
Why would a pretending Mormon write up a blasphemer? You are outed SANDRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Francis Farmer's "God Dies"

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:45 pm
by _Gadianton Plumber
Nightlion wrote:Why would a pretending Mormon write up a blasphemer? You are outed SANDRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Nightlion playing psycho music is awesome on so many levels.

Re: Francis Farmer's "God Dies"

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:02 pm
by _Blixa
Gadianton Plumber wrote:
Nightlion wrote:Why would a pretending Mormon write up a blasphemer? You are outed SANDRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

{psycho music}
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Nightlion playing psycho music is awesome on so many levels.


No kidding.

Also, Frances Farmer was pretty awesome herself.

Re: Francis Farmer's "God Dies"

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:59 pm
by _Jersey Girl
Gaz,

Point out to me the evidence that you see of the Holy Ghost (Spirit) in her essay. If you just copy/paste those portions, that'd be good enough for me.

Thanks,
Jersey Girl

Re: Francis Farmer's "God Dies"

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:58 am
by _Gazelam
Jersey,
I thought the part where she said: "God was different. He was something real, something I could feel. But there were only certain times when I could feel it.". it appears she even experimented with prayer and asking God for help.

In my opinion her experience is not uncommon. I think what makes a difference is when you have a teacher that can guide you in the experience. Someone who has been there and knows how God works with us. that's why he sends prophets, that's why he makes sure that scripture is available to us. When we read scripture we learn the language of the spirit and it helps us to listen.

In the Doctrine and Covenants God commands parents in the church to teach their children light and truth. Children need help in understanding that light they have inside themselves that tells them God is there, they need help in knowing how to pray, in how to read scripture, in how to act on spiritual promptings.

If its not too personal, what are your memories of working with your own children in regards to these things?

Gaz

Re: Francis Farmer's "God Dies"

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:02 am
by _Gazelam
Blixa,
Also, Frances Farmer was pretty awesome herself.


Does this mean that you can see my posts again? Am I off of your banned list?

Gaz

Re: Francis Farmer's "God Dies"

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:09 am
by _Trevor
A truly lovely little essay, especially for a teen. Most adults will never write so well nor possess such a lyrical spirit.

Re: Francis Farmer's "God Dies"

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:29 am
by _Tchild
Gazelam wrote:I find it interesting that she had evidence through the Holy Ghost, but she did not have the spiritual education to know what to do with that information. Very sad.

Classic Mormon elitist arrogance Gazelam. If anything, you consistently offer the shallow stereotype Mormon and how they think.

Re: Francis Farmer's "God Dies"

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:37 am
by _Gazelam
Tchild,
Classic Mormon elitist arrogance Gazelam. If anything, you consistently offer the shallow stereotype Mormon and how they think.


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