Posting on MAD.

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_Joseph Antley
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Re: Posting on MAD.

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Ray A wrote:
Joseph Antley wrote:Isn't this a little bit of an overreaction for a message board screening your posts?

(Which seems perfectly appropriate, judging by your posts in this thread.)


Isn't screening a poster a bit of an overeaction for people who say they value "free speech"?


If your posts resembled anything like those of yours in this thread, then no, it doesn't seem like an overreaction. It seems very appropriate. The MA&D Board is a very different type of environment than this board (thank goodness).
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Re: Posting on MAD.

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Joseph Antley wrote:If your posts resembled anything like those of yours in this thread, then no, it doesn't seem like an overreaction. It seems very appropriate. The MA&D Board is a very different type of environment than this board (thank goodness).


As already explained many people here post differently than they do at MAD, and the reason for that is this is a free speech board. Even TBMs like Droopy have written offensive and vulgar posts here which they don't dare post on MAD, because they know they'd be banned. I fear you are not familiar with much message board history?

When I posted at MAD I always followed the rules, and even when asked to get back on topic or leave the thread, I chose to leave it, and did not post there again. The fact is that the MAD board is skewed with bias towards believers (TBMs), and I understood that, but two incidents in one day was a bit much. Leaving the thread was not a big problem, but screening went too far. It's pretty much: "I will tell you what you can or cannot say here."

No thanks.


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Re: Posting on MAD.

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I gave up on MAD for the most part some time ago. These days, I probably would have no trouble at all, but there is still something about the way they run the board that bugs me. For the most part, the apologists really do a crappy job of defending their point of view and seem to rely on heavy-handed moderation as a crutch to make up for their crappy apologetics.

My take on it is that the whole thing is a big show staged for lurking Mormons looking for answers. If the doubters can be made to think the LDS apologists are really winning, so the erroneous thinking probably goes, then they will be comforted. Truth is, the poor behavior of some of their main people is more likely to drive good folks away from Mormonism. People like Juliann and Pahoran should be disciplined for their behavior. It speaks poorly of Mormonism that they are allowed to represent the LDS Church so poorly with impunity.

Were Jesus alive today, I doubt he could suffer the atmosphere at MAD and I seriously doubt he would waste a moment on it. It is clearly the place to play the smooth-faced hypocrite and self-righteous prig.
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Trevor wrote:Were Jesus alive today, I doubt he could suffer the atmosphere at MAD and I seriously doubt he would waste a moment on it.


Perhaps it would be something like this:

51 Now it came to pass, when the time had come for Him to be received up, that He steadfastly set His face to go to Jerusalem, 52 and sent messengers before His face. And as they went, they entered a village of the Samaritans, to prepare for Him. 53 But they did not receive Him, because His face was set for the journey to Jerusalem. 54 And when His disciples James and John saw this, they said, “Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them, just as Elijah did?”
55 But He turned and rebuked them, and said, “You do not know what manner of spirit you are of. 56 For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives but to save them.”


I don't view MAD as representative of Christianity. It's just another Mormon playground, and one, I am sure, would highly displease many of the Brethren, especially Elder Ballard, because they are virtually making a total mockery of his message concerning how Mormons on the Internet should behave. It would probably be better for the Church that MAD were disbanded, or changed in some way, and I think that idea was seriously entertained in the past. The FAIR blog isn't usually encumbered in this way, and I think most discussions there tend to proceed in a civil way, without much moderation, at least from what I've experienced. Though we heartily disagreed, it was a pleasure to debate with Lou Midgley there, and to see a side of him I'd never seen before. He wisely stays off MAD. I'm not saying he's a saint either, but I think he knows where he can or cannot be productive, and how to use his time effectively.

As for Juliann, I have nothing personal against her (even if she's the one who banned me), and never really had. I think it's the younger ones like LoaP who are really taking charge now and controlling how discussion proceeds. I think his influence on that board is a lot stronger than most of us may be prepared to believe.
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Re: Posting on MAD.

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Ray wrote:As for Juliann, I have nothing personal against her (even if she's the one who banned me), and never really had. I think it's the younger ones like LoaP who are really taking charge now and controlling how discussion proceeds. I think his influence on that board is a lot stronger than most of us may be prepared to believe.



You're deluding yourself if you think that LOAP, or anyone, for that matter, could take the board away from Juliann. Juliann IS MAD (appropriately...LOL)

It's her board. She owns it. Nothing ultimately gets done without her say-so...and that includes the ultimate attitudes of discussions.
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Trevor wrote:Were Jesus alive today, I doubt he could suffer the atmosphere at MAD and I seriously doubt he would waste a moment on it. It is clearly the place to play the smooth-faced hypocrite and self-righteous prig.



Thanks, Trev! I just found my new sig!
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liz3564 wrote:You're deluding yourself if you think that LOAP, or anyone, for that matter, could take the board away from Juliann. Juliann IS MAD (appropriately...LOL)

It's her board. She owns it. Nothing ultimately gets done without her say-so...and that includes the ultimate attitudes of discussions.


We'll I'd have to defer to your former insider knowledge, as you'd know the inner workings far better than I do. Truth is, even when arguing with her (as I've recently done) I don't find her comments very substantive. It's feels more like kicking off an annoying chihuahua trying to piss on your leg than fighting off a pit bull.

LoaP is more cunning. He'll put on the niceties (where Juliann is just blunt) but when the discussion starts going a way he doesn't like he'll step in to control it. I actually just checked the FAIR blog and see she was also arguing with someone there with annoying one-liners. But that's about it - seldom any substance. Since you haven't moderated there for quite a while now, too, I think some things may have changed. Juliann is now, I believe, much less "hands-on" and spends less time there. LoaP is there just about everyday, and for long periods of time.
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Re: Posting on MAD.

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liz3564 wrote:...
Nothing ultimately gets done without her say-so...
and that includes the ultimate attitudes of discussions.


Just out of curiosity, do you have any idea as to why she
slipped up once, and called me her "favorite uncle?" It seems
my situation there did not easily fit into the usual stereotypes.

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Re: Posting on MAD.

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Joseph Antley wrote: The MA&D Board is a very different type of environment than this board (thank goodness).


You mean in terms of offering First Class, Standard and Steerage instead of the single Coach transit fare that is offered here?

Hey, there is more. We even have one boarding car that is covered with graffiti and the passengers are all given a spray can upon boarding. One other item, is that the porters and stewards here carry concealed firearms rather than concealed daggers and poison blow darts that are carried by the key masters and Gate Keeper at MAD.
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Re: Posting on MAD.

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liz3564 wrote:Thanks, Trev! I just found my new sig!


It is a pleasure to be considered quotable. Thank you.
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