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This is the Christian message. No matter what you do or how you do it, you can never be good enough. That is why Jesus died.

Does that really make sense from a 'loving father'?

this is not the Christian message. Perhaps a broken fragment with which the actual message is difficult to reconstruct.

R 6:5 For sin shall not be your master because you are not under law but under grace.
11;32 For God has bound all men over to disobedience so that be may have mercy on them all.
Therefore do not be conformed to the style demands of this world but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.

or my words, We do not exist but from God. If we are to find and be the fullness of our potential we need to continue the connection to the source of our being. This is done in this world by receiving and then shareing with our neighbors, grace, forgivness and love.

zzyzx wrote:This is the Christian message. No matter what you do or how you do it, you can never be good enough. That is why Jesus died.

Does that really make sense from a 'loving father'?

If there really are "other gods" with their own universes, plans, savior, and satan and they have TV, I'd bet our god is on their god world version of COPS.

Elohim is a dead beat dad.

First, he allows one of his oldest boys(satan) to coerce 1/3 of his precious kids into something that god himself thinks is wrong. Does he punish Satan? Yep along with all of the younger kids who snuck out of church with their older brother to smoke some Kolob weed behind the chapel.

He PRE JUDGES his kids before they even made it to the damn testing center(earth)! Telling them there is no way in hell, errr heaven they will ever step foot into the God testing center.

WTF Elohim? If I were to do that with my kids your own church would condemn me.

Then the 2/3 that stayed for the entire three boring hours with Jesus in the Kolob 1st ward get to go to the God testing center. "Hey Dad, lets “F” with em first!", exclaimed Jesus

Only Jesus, Elohim's obvious favorite son, gets to have all of the knowledge when he comes to the God testing center. The rest get their knowledge wiped.

Then while his precious children are sweating it out trying to pass the ever changing requirements of the God testing center, Elohim throws out little hints and riddles.

If the kids don't get the riddles he gets pissed off and rips up their test and sends them to the same misery of the PRE JUDGED 1/3.

He will only love his kids if they do EXACTLY as he told them, in the riddles.

What kind of mind idiot is our "heavenly father" anyway?

Later after his fav son comes down and "F"s around, Elohim confesses that nearly all of his kids will never get the riddles, passing the test and get to be a bad ass god like him.

I'd be for rounding up all of my spirit brothers to go and beat the celestial crap out of our dead beat dad of a heavenly father.

Oh and heavenly mother(s) they are bitches for standing around and letting this psychopath taunt their kids like this. I come on, they out number Elohim like what, a billion to one?

Nah, I for one do not wish to become like my father in heaven or his hippie son Jesus.

EDIT to add: Plus I have cut off all communication with my half brother Casper, the holy ghost. I told that lazy ass to go back to school and learn the rest of our language. It is hard to carry on a meaningful conversation when the only words he knows are yes and no.

Polygamy-Porter wrote:Elohim is a dead beat dad.

Mr. Porter, I am going to point out for everyone's edification what a prejudice Nazi you are.

First off you are on a too familiar basis with God the Eternal Father. You are not his spirit child born spiritually, as it were, from the fruit of his loins. I know lots of Mormons want to think they are. There is no Very Eternal Mother in heaven either.

So that itself unplugs your entire rant.

Paul keeps screaming for me to prove myself a prophet of God and when I tell people the real story of LDS scripture they go lock themselves up in an asylum with DCP, LOAP, and Mike Reed pretending I never said a thing that matters in the least.

God spoke and man was created? How so? Nightlion will tell you and you can snit about it all you like. D&C 93 says that all intelligence was appointed to independent spheres of existence.
This is the organization of intelligence. This is where even Christ is your very Eternal Father because all three, the Father, Son and Holy Ghost participated in the organization of your intelligence. As they were also involved in the organization of all other intelligences that would become animals and plants and worlds.
This is why Abinadi says; yea Christ is the very Eternal Father. It was all over the place in the original Book of Mormon.

This is how they are the very Eternal Father of all things. By giving each intelligence the knowledge of their respective spheres of existence. To exist independently you needed to be added upon with sufficient knowledge by the gift or obeyed command of God to come out of the light and stand independent in the sphere of Human.

THEN

Those who chose to continue are provided with a spirit body by way of those whom God commands, even two exalted beings who are raised up to exaltation and the continuation of the seeds. Adam and Eve were that for us. It just happens to say so in creation scripture, so why does everyone pretend God the Very Eternal Father was our spirit body parent and imagine up the non existent, unknown, never mentioned Mother in Heaven.

Would everyone just climb out of the sand box, please? Those who have pissed themselves, and we can see who you are, DCP, LOAP, MIKE REED, can go change and we will wait.

We need to obtain bodies so that we can receive a fulness of joy. That joy is to know God. With all that man comprehends and sees far off into the eternities, imagine the joy in knowing the artist/God/creator who accomplished everything?

Porter, your snits against God are groundless and sheer ignorance.

When you rant about hating God it is the most stupid thing you can possibly do. Even Satan would not do that.

The haters of God become idiots refusing the knowledge of God which of necessity diminishes them. They are nothing in comparison. This will not do for all their learning MUST be self aggrandizement.

zzyzx wrote:This is the Christian message. No matter what you do or how you do it, you can never be good enough. That is why Jesus died.

Does that really make sense from a 'loving father'?

Jesus (in him all God's fullness dwells) gave himself up for the church to make her holy, cleanse her, to present her holy and blameless.

Eph. 5
25 Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, 26 that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, 27 so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish.

Jude 1:24
Now to him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you blameless before the presence of his glory with great joy, 25 to the only God, our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen.