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Ray A wrote:
harmony wrote:And I want to know how Joseph could have his calling and election made sure, when he couldn't even document the restoration of the higher priesthood.


He did. May, or June, 1828, or 1829.

Gee, does nothing satisify you?


*laughing*... good try!
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
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Bumping this for Gaz.
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Liz,
It is an established fact that polygamy is of God. Christ himslef came from a polygamous family, and many of the most righteous and obedient men and women who ever lived practiced it.

Polygamy is a princilple with a promise, and a school that instructs the participants in gaining an understanding of life in heaven. If a couple are commanded to practice it, and the wife in that couple refuses to do so, then the sin is upon her head, not the mans. That is all that the law of Sarah is stating. it is the same as with any other commandment, if you do not keep it, then you do not get the associated blessings that come with it, you instead get the cursings that come with the failure to be obedient.

God is a covenant making God. His laws are principles with promises. I do not think you would disagree with either of those statements. Apply this to the dispensation of the fulness of times and the restoration of the expansion of the marriage covenant. A study into the Abrahamic covenant would help you a great deal.

Gaz
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Gaz
Christ himslef came from a polygamous family,


Who taught you that?

I want Bible references.
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Jersey,
Who taught you that?

I want Bible references.


Matthew Chapter one, verse one.
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Gazelam wrote:Matthew Chapter one, verse one.


He is descended from David, but why did he not teach polygamy?
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A woman's first marriage in the early Greco-Roman world was usually between the ages of 12 and 18 for both Jewish and Roman women. A man could be married as early as 14, but they typically waited longer, sometimes until as late as age 30. A five year age difference between husband and wife was typical.
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Gazelam wrote:Liz,
It is an established fact that polygamy is of God.


No, it's not. It's an established fact that polygamy was part of Jewish culture; it is not an established fact that it was of God.

Christ himslef came from a polygamous family, and many of the most righteous and obedient men and women who ever lived practiced it.


And many of the sleazeballs whoever lived also practiced it. Big deal.

Show me where Christ preached it, taught it, or lived it. Otherwise, he's just as unfortunate in his ancestry as my husband is.
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Gazelam wrote:Jersey,
Who taught you that?

I want Bible references.


Matthew Chapter one, verse one.



You know how LDS are offended when folks discuss things such as garments, temple content, etc?

I find your application of the verse in question completely disgusting.
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Gaz wrote:God is a covenant making God. His laws are principles with promises. I do not think you would disagree with either of those statements


I don't. But what righteous principle comes from placing a woman in the position of being a possession, or a second-class citizen?

Gaz wrote:A study into the Abrahamic covenant would help you a great deal.


Could you give me a reference of the best information I could read that would help me understand how the Abrahamic covenant relates to polygamy. I very much doubt that my view will change, but I am open to at least studying the information you direct me to.
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