Scott Lloyd whines about new dangers of unregulated truth.

[_Ray A]

I don't give a damn what someone's personal thoughts are; but, when someone starts posting about another person's 12 year. old son on an open Internet forum, there's a line that has been crossed. Is there no such thing as decorum anymore?

Perspective, TT:

Scott wrote:

Last night, my 12-year-old came to me to ask who Thomas Murphy was. Further, he asked, "Wasn't the Salt Lake Temple dedicated after the Mountain Meadows Massacre?"

[snip]

It also occurs to me that in this cyber age, those who put hand to keyboard to oppose the Lord and His work will one day be held accountable for the faith of others they damage or destroy. Something posted on the Internet has a potential audience of millions. Regarding these authors, it were better that a millstone be hanged about their neck, etc.

Is this really only about someone else's 12 year old son?

[_ttribe]

Define decorum. I also hope Scott's 12 YO gets married and has kids of his own. Is THAT OK?

Okay..."decorum" defined: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/decorum

[_ttribe]

Is this really only about someone else's 12 year old son?

Nyal's post was, yes. And that's the only thing I was interested in responding to.

[_Gadianton Plumber]

I swear that Mopologists are the willfully dense people in the universe. Hoping your child leaves the church is cause for fighting?

[_KimberlyAnn]

You missed the point...

Are the missionaries a "class act" because they hoped I would leave the teachings of my father and join their church?

~td~

No I don't believe I missed any point...the fact is missionaries didn't go post in an open forum on the Internet about their hopes that you would be freed from "the stupid group of non-thinkers attempting to poison [your] little mind"? There's still an equivalence problem here.

You have ceaselessly missed the point.

Follows your initial post on this thread:

You don't think it's just a tad over the line to comment on your hopes that Scott's son rejects the teachings of his parents? What a class act you are.

My Mormon neighbor publicly comments that she hopes her non-Mormon nieces and nephews eventually convert to Mormonism. To join Mormonism, they would, of necessity, have to reject many of the beliefs of their parents and abandon the church of their birth. I know many Mormons who hope underage non-Mormon children eventually reject the religious beliefs of their parents and join the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Are those Mormons crossing the line? Are they classless? Are the missionaries who hope the under-age children they teach reject the religious beliefs of their parents and join the Mormon church classless?

No one is targeting Scott Lloyd's under-age son personally in an attempt to lure him into apostasy. He read information on the Internet that is available to all. GP's musing that he'd like to see Scott's son eventually reject the faith of his father is no different than my neighbor's musings that she hopes the same thing for her nieces and nephews. No different.

As I mentioned earlier, Mormons have a history of baptizing underage children and did it profusely in the 60's and 70's through programs such as "Baseball Baptisms." They did it with or without parent permission. I hope Mormon folks would condemn such practices today, but the fact remains that, at least for some former apostles, respecting the rights of parents wasn't an important issue. Not only did those Mormons desire under-age children to abandon the beliefs of their parents, they helped them do it without the knowledge of their parents. They sought out children on playgrounds, baseball fields, soccer fields, and basketball courts. Now THOSE parents had valid complaints, wouldn't you say?

KA

[_ttribe]

Now THOSE parents had valid complaints, wouldn't you say?

Yes. I would. And I'm embarrassed that such a thing happened. Nevertheless, that was then and this is now. Furthermore, just as I think GP should keep his nose out of my parenting and shut his yap about his hopes for my children, I think your neighbor should too. Fair enough?

[_Gadianton Plumber]

Now THOSE parents had valid complaints, wouldn't you say?

Yes. I would. And I'm embarrassed that such a thing happened. Nevertheless, that was then and this is now. Furthermore, just as I think GP should keep his nose out of my parenting and shut his yap about his hopes for my children, I think your Aunt should too. Fair enough?

Am I involved in your parenting now? Holy crap!

[_ttribe]

Am I involved in your parenting now? Holy crap!

Only to the extent that you expressed opinions about my parenting - "I hope that every child of every age grows up to be a rational and honorable human being. I feel the BEST place for this to occur is away from the Church."

Edited to add - by the way Nyal, when do you intend to answer my question about what, exactly, do you mean by the phrase "Die In A Fire"?

[_Gadianton Plumber]

Am I involved in your parenting now? Holy crap!

Only to the extent that you expressed opinions about my parenting - "I hope that every child of every age grows up to be a rational and honorable human being. I feel the BEST place for this to occur is away from the Church."

How does expressing my opinion about anything affect anything? I think you overestimate my powers. My nose is still out of your business AND I hope your children leave the church. See how that works?

[_ttribe]

How does expressing my opinion about anything affect anything?

Does it have to "affect anything" to be wrong?

I think you overestimate my powers.

I've ascribed no powers to you.

My nose is still out of your business AND I hope your children leave the church. See how that works?

If your nose was out of my business, you wouldn't feel compelled to comment on my business, now would you?