Why LDS Mormons are not Christian.

[_Gadianton Plumber]

Well then, there you go. Anything that includes some shape of Jesus is Christian, including the Mr. Potato Head Christ. They just don't get to be called mainstream.

Oh, come on. Our culture understands Jesus to be the figure from the Bible. Mr. Potato head Christ doesn't qualify. That is ignoring culturally accepted meanings of words (like my cat is God).

You seem to think that distinguishing between "mainstream" and non-mainstream is pointless. Why?

Mr. Potato Head as Christ the personal savior. Christian or not?

How far can the Mormons pervert Christ and still be called followers of the "figure from the Bible"?

Are we maybe talking Venn diagrams here? Christians on one hand and mainstreamers on the other?

[_Gadianton Plumber]

Why can't mainstream Christians be discounted as Christian?

Because you are then ignoring our culturally accepted meaning of the term, and are, instead, using an arbitrary definition of your own creation.

So are Mormons ignoring culturally accepted meanings of Christ? If not, why not?

[_beastie]

Mr. Potato Head as Christ the personal savior. Christian or not?

How far can the Mormons pervert Christ and still be called followers of the "figure from the Bible"?

Are we maybe talking Venn diagrams here? Christians on one hand and mainstreamers on the other?

Mr. Potato Head is such a diversion from the Bible that it's clearly meant as a joke. Mormonism's conception of Jesus follows the Bible quite closely, except for theological disputes that not even the entire Christian community has resolved. I'll ask you the same question I asked Jersey Girl: are only triniterians Christian?

[_Jersey Girl]

GP

Mr. Potato Head as Christ the personal savior. Christian or not?

How far can the Mormons pervert Christ and still be called followers of the "figure from the Bible"?

Are we maybe talking Venn diagrams here? Christians on one hand and mainstreamers on the other?

To your first. That depends.

Is Mr. Potato Head Christ:

a self existent god
a god that has always been god
a god that entered human history
a god whose offer of salvation rests on the above "claims"

?

[_beastie]

So are Mormons ignoring culturally accepted meanings of Christ? If not, why not?

Now you're making fine theological distinctions. Are only triniterians Christians? Why or why not?

[_Gadianton Plumber]

Mr. Potato Head as Christ the personal savior. Christian or not?

How far can the Mormons pervert Christ and still be called followers of the "figure from the Bible"?

Are we maybe talking Venn diagrams here? Christians on one hand and mainstreamers on the other?

Mr. Potato Head is such a diversion from the Bible that it's clearly meant as a joke. Mormonism's conception of Jesus follows the Bible quite closely, except for theological disputes that not even the entire Christian community has resolved. I'll ask you the same question I asked Jersey Girl: are only triniterians Christian?

MPH Christ is meant as an extreme example to prove a point. There is a point where the perversion is too much. Mormon Jesus is way off base from Biblical Christianity, albeit not as far as MPH Jesus. So, how far is too far for Beastie?

[_Gadianton Plumber]

So are Mormons ignoring culturally accepted meanings of Christ? If not, why not?

Now you're making fine theological distinctions. Are only triniterians Christians? Why or why not?

I don't know enough about that debate to comment.

[_Jersey Girl]

beastie,

I didn't see where you posed the question the first time. Multi-tasking here.

My answer is "no".

[_Jersey Girl]

How do you know it's way off base? How did you come to know/understand this?

Or are you just making suppe here for no good reason?

[_Gadianton Plumber]

I wonder if triniterianism is as fine a theological distinction as a polygamous, non-eternal Jesus whose Atonement is roughly co-equal to paying your tithing and obeying octogenarians.