No, DCP. You are being liberal with the truth again.

[_Jersey Girl]

I'm going to appear to switch sides when what I'm really doing is challenging whatever I see, so don't get confused as to what "side" I'm on. I'm on the side of "thinking".

Manfred

What does the Bible have to say about the Atonement that Mormons do not accept?

That it was complete.

[_Gadianton Plumber]

What does the Bible have to say about the Atonement that Mormons do not accept?

That God offers the Atonement as a gift to his children. One cannot earn a gift. One cannot deserve the Atonement. The moment to attempt to deserve it, it ceases to be an atonement. The temple further mocks the Atonement of Christ. You are a sinner, you are not a god.

[_Jersey Girl]

With regards to the issue of "doctrinal confusion" are you saying that Mormon's don't understand Christian theology/doctrine?

They reject Christian theology and doctrine, twist it for their own uses, and then call themselves Mormons.

What parts of Christian theology and doctrine do they reject and twist?

(This would be a good ME discussion, just sayin')

[_Gadianton Plumber]

Really you can take your pick. Nature of God is a good start. Nature of sin is another. It goes on and on. Is a polygamist Jesus a twisting?

[_Manfred]

I'm going to appear to switch sides when what I'm really doing is challenging whatever I see, so don't get confused as to what "side" I'm on. I'm on the side of "thinking".

Manfred

What does the Bible have to say about the Atonement that Mormons do not accept?

That it was complete.

If by this you mean that zero response is expected of God's children to accept the Atonement, then, yes, Mormons reject this - and the fact that such a notion is foreign to the Bible may be why.

[_Jersey Girl]

Throwing this on the pile since it just came to mind.

I've read numerous times LDS saying that the LDS Church does not emphasize the cross nor does it use the cross as a religious symbol because it would be akin to elevating a murder weapon.

In Christian thought and belief, the cross is the ultimate symbol of Christ's sacrifice because it is believed to have been planned.

[_Jersey Girl]

Really you can take your pick. Nature of God is a good start. Nature of sin is another. It goes on and on. Is a polygamist Jesus a twisting?

In the Christian mind, a polygamous Jesus is blasphemy.

[_Gadianton Plumber]

If by this you mean that zero response is expected of God's children to accept the Atonement, then, yes, Mormons reject this - and the fact that such a notion is foreign to the Bible may be why.

All that is required is you accept the gift by accepting Jesus. It is not foreign to the Bible, it is foreign to the Mormon Bible.

[_Jersey Girl]

Manfred

If by this you mean that zero response is expected of God's children to accept the Atonement, then, yes, Mormons reject this - and the fact that such a notion is foreign to the Bible may be why.

That's not what I mean at all. I'm talking in terms (going to get offensive here) of performing "works" such as vicarious baptism, tithing being a sign of "worthiness". None of these things are Biblical and are akin to thinking that God keeps an eternal score card and expects people to play a game that they can win.

Not Biblical.

[_Jersey Girl]

If by this you mean that zero response is expected of God's children to accept the Atonement, then, yes, Mormons reject this - and the fact that such a notion is foreign to the Bible may be why.

All that is required is you accept the gift by accepting Jesus. It is not foreign to the Bible, it is foreign to the Mormon Bible.

Agree. Furthermore, Christianity includes a heart change.

Not scoring eternal points with God Spirit or Christ.

In Christianity, my salvation isn't dependent on your salvation. Mormonism holds hostage the salvation of whole families.