No, DCP. You are being liberal with the truth again.

[_Manfred]

Jersey and Plumber, am I correct in believing that you both do not consider Mormons Christian because they reject belief in salvation by grace alone (solafidianism)?

[_Jersey Girl]

Really you can take your pick. Nature of God is a good start. Nature of sin is another. It goes on and on. Is a polygamist Jesus a twisting?

I'll take nature of sin for 200$, Alex.

If I recall correctly, Mormonism assigns point value to various types of sin.

The Bible makes no distinction between various types of sin with regards to consequences excepting blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. (I'm unclear as to what that means exactly.)

[_Jersey Girl]

Jersey and Plumber, am I correct in believing that you both do not consider Mormons Christian because they reject belief in salvation by grace alone (solafidianism)?

I told you previously that I am on the side of "thinking". Please don't throw me on the pile with GP, I'm neither supporting his position nor attacking it.

I will likely do both.

In my mind, and I've stated this numerous times on this board, there are two sub topics to be had here. Are Mormons Christians? Is Mormonism Christianity?

Here are my answers to both questions:

Are Mormons Christians?

Yes, they can be.

Is Mormonism Christianity?

No.

Do you see the difference? I am making a distinction between what goes on in the human heart in relation to God Spirit (sorry, I have my own theology!) and what goes on in a religion.

On this thread, I am following GP's lead as to the issues that he raises. I see him as dealing mainly with theological and doctrinal differences. That's what I will confine my answers to for the time being.

[_Gadianton Plumber]

Are Mormons Christians?]/b]

Yes, they can be.

[b]Is Mormonism Christianity?

No.

I think this expresses my thoughts exactly. Well put.

[_Jersey Girl]

FYI: I have about 10 minutes left to be here right now. I will try to come back later to see if there is a place for me to rejoin the discussion

[_Gadianton Plumber]

Jersey and Plumber, am I correct in believing that you both do not consider Mormons Christian because they reject belief in salvation by grace alone (solafidianism)?

I am not sure what I think about grace, but LDS rejects much much much more than that issue.

[_Jersey Girl]

Are Mormons Christians?[/b]

Yes, they can be.

Is Mormonism Christianity?

No.

I think this expresses my thoughts exactly. Well put.

I've been down this road more than a few times and how I wish I had more time to continue right now.

[_moksha]

In Christianity, my salvation isn't dependent on your salvation. Mormonism holds hostage the salvation of whole families.

All it means is that they won't float around together during family home evening. Believers will be saved and righteous women will have a chance at higher exaltation by being a plural wife of a deceased TBM. Nothing weird about that.

[_Jersey Girl]

I'm afraid that I'm going to have to be the one who pulls the pin and runs this time. I have something else I need to attend to. But here goes...

Mormonism relies on external methods of receiving salvation.

Christianity relies on internal methods of receiving salvation.

Put another way...

Mormonism relies on keeping a score card of one's "acts".
Christianity relies on keeping a spiritual watch over oneself in relation to God.

[_Gadianton Plumber]

In Christianity, my salvation isn't dependent on your salvation. Mormonism holds hostage the salvation of whole families.

All it means is that they won't float around together during family home evening. Believers will be saved and righteous women will have a chance at higher exaltation by being a plural wife of a deceased TBM. Nothing weird about that.

And all Biblical! Oh wait...