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Apologists Erupt over Runtu's Top 10 List

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:44 pm
by _Doctor Scratch
Over on the aptly named MADboard, several notable apologists are flipping out over a comic Top Ten List which seems to have been penned by our very own Runtu:

http://www.mormonapologetics.org/topic/ ... emolished/

You can judge for yourself whether or not this satiric list is worthy of the criticism it has received from the apologists:

Top Ten Rejected Names for the "Mormon Scholars Testify" Website
Date: Jan 12 17:11
Author: substrate
Mail Address: XXXXXX

10. Great Moments in Cognitive Dissonance
9. Smarter People Than You Who Believe
8. Who's Who of Lame Excuses
7. Extreme Makeover: Bogus Religion Edition
6. It's Still a Pig, Even if the Lipstick Has a PhD.
5. Dancing Around the Truth
4. Lie to Me: Utah
3. Truthbusters
2. At Least We're Not Defending Bigfoot
1. It's Not a Lie if You Believe It


Later, John "Runtu" Williams appeared on the thread to claim credit, and to put out any angry fires on the Mopologetic front:

John Williams wrote:A couple of clarifications:

1. Everything I've ever done is remarkably juvenile, so don't expect me to change.

2. I can't believe you called me a jackass. You owe all jackasses out there an apology. :)

And I thought apologists had a sense of humor. ;)


No---sorry, John. The apologists are absolutely grimly humorless when it comes to things like this. Most striking was this unfortunate but predictable outburst from Pahoran:

Pahoran wrote:
John Williams wrote:A couple of clarifications:

1. Everything I've ever done is remarkably juvenile, so don't expect me to change.

2. I can't believe you called me a jackass. You owe all jackasses out there an apology. :)


If you really are the author of that pile of bigoted vomitus, then you are right.

John Williams wrote:And I thought apologists had a sense of humor. ;)


We do.

It's just that "jokes" along the lines of "All Mormons tell lies" or "Mormons are out of touch with reality" pretty much fall under the same genre as "jokes" about why Jews have big noses and how many people with hereditary suntans can hang from one tree. The only people that enjoy them are the local Imperial Wizard, the local Gauleiter, and the local Mormon-hater.

Who may or may not all be the same person.

Oh, and just so you know: "Cognitive dissonance" as an anti-Mormon slogan is now recognised as mere pretentious posturing by the incurably ignorant.

Regards,
Pahoran


Huh. It seems to me that this is poor form on Pahoran's part. Doesn't he know that a group of Latter-day Saints touring the Holy Land in the 1970s found it uproariously funny to mock the Jewish wedding ceremony? Someone better tell him post-haste, before he embarrasses important apologists yet again.

Re: Apologists Erupt over Runtu's Top 10 List

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:50 pm
by _Runtu
Yeah, it was me. I was surprised that before I even had time to take off my hood and robe and sing even one verse of the Horst Wessel song, Dr. Peterson had not only seen my silly little post but commented over on MADB. I think it was maybe up 20 minutes.

Maybe it was in poor taste, and if so, I'm sorry. I have said that I found Blake Ostler's testimony to be remarkably similar to things I said when I was a believer. It was kind of shocking to see him doing the same kinds of things I was doing.

But, if I offended anyone, I apologize.

Re: Apologists Erupt over Runtu's Top 10 List

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:56 pm
by _Doctor Scratch
I wouldn't worry about it, Runtu. Dr. Peterson and the other Mopologists are hypersensitive these days, especially when it comes to anything having to do with their Mopologetic projects and schemes.

Re: Apologists Erupt over Runtu's Top 10 List

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:05 am
by _Ray A
Apparently only "butthead humour" makes apologists laugh.

Re: Apologists Erupt over Runtu's Top 10 List

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:06 am
by _Runtu
Ray A wrote:Apparently only "butthead humour" makes apologists laugh.


What are you, some kinda Nazi? ;)

Re: Apologists Erupt over Runtu's Top 10 List

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:12 am
by _Ray A
Runtu wrote:What are you, some kinda Nazi? ;)


More like "pile of bigoted vomitus" who is "pretentiously posturing and incurably ignorant".

Re: Apologists Erupt over Runtu's Top 10 List

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:12 am
by _Doctor Scratch
Ray A wrote:Apparently only "butthead humour" makes apologists laugh.


Yeah, that among other things. Just the other day, Wiki Wonka was yukking it up over the fact that a believing Latter-day Saint has been subjected to Mopologetic smear tactics.

Re: Apologists Erupt over Runtu's Top 10 List

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:32 am
by _Gadianton
Hilarious Runtu! I loved it! I assure you, as one who received an "A" in an ethics class I took from BYU, that you've done nothing wrong here and owe no one an apology.

As Doctor Scratch points out, the apologists are very scattered these days from several devastating losses they've suffered on a number of fronts, both to critics and even fellow TBMs.

I'm surprised it took 20 whole minutes before you were were viciously attacked.

Re: Apologists Erupt over Runtu's Top 10 List

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:50 am
by _EAllusion
Gadianton wrote: I assure you, as one who received an "A" in an ethics class I took from BYU, that you've done nothing wrong here and owe no one an apology.
:)

Re: Apologists Erupt over Runtu's Top 10 List

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:13 am
by _Polygamy-Porter
"It's Not a Lie if You Believe It"

PERFECT!!