Health care... no abortion and no Viagra?

[_zzyzx]

On government run health care. Many harp on the availability of Abortion for women. They don't want it available or paid for. How about "No Abortion" being the rule for women and "NO Viagra" the rule for men? Keep the old farts from making babies and cut down on the need for abortion at the same time?

[_truth dancer]

IMHO, the government should not pay for abortions, and we most certainly should not pay to help men have sex.

However, we should do everything we can to prevent unwanted pregnancies! While I understand there are those who are uncomfortable with this, we would save billions of dollars and incalculable human suffering.


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[_EAllusion]

One of the pitfalls of any national healthcare system in the US is you are likely to see special interest hot potatoes get the short shrift on medical coverage, not for medical reasons, but because of political concerns. My favorite example is AIDS when it was known as a gay disease. This is an area where a profit driven system is preferable. I don't think we're going to see this issue with viagra, maybe, but it will eventually come up with things traditionally understood as more of a liberal bugaboo. We don't have a national healthcare system at this point mind you, but even this corporatist plan that depends on subsidies, you're going to see issues like that come up. Abortion is just the tip of the iceberg. Smokers depending on a flow of government subsidies might be in a world of hurt down the line, for instance.

On the opposite side of the coin, it also opens up the door for forcing Americans to pay for others' medically dubious treatments, such as the the panoply of "alternative medicine" in a way a more voluntary system wouldn't.

[_bcspace]

On government run health care. Many harp on the availability of Abortion for women. They don't want it available or paid for. How about "No Abortion" being the rule for women and "NO Viagra" the rule for men? Keep the old farts from making babies and cut down on the need for abortion at the same time?

How about no Obamacare at all or no forcing others to pay for the consequences someone else's lifestyle choices? Health care is not a right.

[_Fiannan]

IMHO, the government should not pay for abortions, and we most certainly should not pay to help men have sex.

However, we should do everything we can to prevent unwanted pregnancies! While I understand there are those who are uncomfortable with this, we would save billions of dollars and incalculable human suffering.


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Or better yet -- pay for people with low IQs to abstain from reproduction and give bonuses for people with high IQs to have big families? It may harken back to the early 20th century in the USA, but it does have a cold logic to it that is hard to argue with.

[_Brackite]

IMHO, the government should not pay for abortions, and we most certainly should not pay to help men have sex.

However, we should do everything we can to prevent unwanted pregnancies! While I understand there are those who are uncomfortable with this, we would save billions of dollars and incalculable human suffering.


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Hi Truth dancer,

I fully agree with you here.

[_Tarski]

Viagra helps correct or support a bodily function that enables sexual activity. The latter is as important to mental health as sunshine.
What's with the devaluing of sex??

[_truth dancer]

Hi Tarski,

Viagra helps correct or support a bodily function that enables sexual activity. The latter is as important to mental health as sunshine.
What's with the devaluing of sex??

I'm not one to "devalue" sex but I most certainly do not want my money to go to help men have sex.

in my opinion, any government funds that go to help men have sex are funds taken away from children suffering from cancer, the elderly stricken with Alzheimer's, and other Americans with serious illnesses.

Men survived without Viagra for at least a hundred thousand years. Maybe it is natures way? ;-) Regardless, it is not the governments responsibility to provide funds so men can have sex.

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[_harmony]

If men want to have sex after their natural function misfires, I see no reason why they need a government subsidy. Pay for the Viagra out of your own pocket.

[_harmony]

Viagra helps correct or support a bodily function that enables sexual activity. The latter is as important to mental health as sunshine.
What's with the devaluing of sex??

I'm not sure what you mean by the bolded part. Are you saying sex is necessary for mental health... at least as necessary as sunshine?