Why are there not more apologists on this site?

[_Scottie]

My sincere apologies to Will for wrongly accusing him of things he did not say.

I will modify my original post.

[_Trevor]

I agree that we like to go where our opinions are more accepted, but lets face it there are other motivations going on here that I brought up in my op. A group of apologists got together as a group and decided not to post here anymore. I doubt it was due to criticism and more to do with trying to kill this site and force the discussion to MADB.

Which works great for them if all we can imagine is the back and forth between "apologists" and "critics." I think it is clear that there is a lot of room for interesting discussion about Mormonism without any apologists at all. Like others, I am happy to have them here, but I by no means feel desolate without them, as though a conversation about religion is only possible when apologists participate.

[_Themis]

Which works great for them if all we can imagine is the back and forth between "apologists" and "critics." I think it is clear that there is a lot of room for interesting discussion about Mormonism without any apologists at all. Like others, I am happy to have them here, but I by no means feel desolate without them, as though a conversation about religion is only possible when apologists participate.

I agree. I think DCP might now as well:)

lostindc

I don't doubt this at all, in fact I can see how this would be very benefitial. It is a shrewd "business" tactic which will more than likely eventually work.

I think many times it can work, but I think DCP may now realize that it won't work for reasons Trevor gives, as well as the fact that DCP does not have the following or influence he may have thought he had.

[_Redefined]

I think there is more discussion going on now, than from when I first was aware of this boards existence. It seemed like active discussion was few and far between. I didn't follow the board though, so I wouldn't know.

[_Some Schmo]

"Why are there not more apologists on this site?"

Because it's no fun to go to a place where you know you're going to lose before you even get started. In the fight between strained conjecture and sound reason, it's pretty obvious who's going to win.

I regard the insult slinging here as a convenient excuse for them to bow out before they even begin. If they were so offended by outrageous insults, they wouldn't be at MAD either.

[_Runtu]

I regard the insult slinging here as a convenient excuse for them to bow out before they even begin. If they were so offended by outrageous insults, they wouldn't be at MAD either.

There's not much difference in the kinds or level of insults, just the use of profanity (and Shades blocks that out, anyway).

[_ttribe]

Now you know what the non-believer or sincere questioner feels like over at MADB.

"Now [I] know"? Is that what goes on here? Retribution for other people's bad behavior?

[_Runtu]

"Now [I] know"? Is that what goes on here? Retribution for other people's bad behavior?

I don't think that's what Schmo was saying. The big difference here is that someone might hurl an insult, but you are free to respond however you wish. The same isn't true over there.

It used to go something like this:

Apologist: [Critic], you're making this up. Just another exMormon liar.

Critic: I don't appreciate being called a liar. You can disagree with me without attacking my integrity.

Stop making everything about you, Critic! ~ mods

[_ttribe]

I don't think that's what Schmo was saying. The big difference here is that someone might hurl an insult, but you are free to respond however you wish. The same isn't true over there.

It used to go something like this:

Apologist: [Critic], you're making this up. Just another exMormon liar.

Critic: I don't appreciate being called a liar. You can disagree with me without attacking my integrity.

Stop making everything about you, Critic! ~ mods

I'm not defending MAD&B. I have my own problems with the moderation on that board. I was simply commenting on the experience here.

[_Themis]

"Now [I] know"? Is that what goes on here? Retribution for other people's bad behavior?

No, but you claim it does happen, and I believe you, so it may help in understanding those who go over to MADB. I think I have been pretty good at not making personal attacks and wish those who do would stop.