harmony wrote:You didn't address Dr Gee's comment, EE.
Is the church moving away from the canon?
Of course it isn't. What on earth would give you this idea?
The only people I can think of who would seriously consider the Church moving away from its own scriptures, is someone who has thoroughly moved away from the Church.
The church will move away from itself according to its own will, Droopy. The temple penalties and blood oaths enjoyed by Brigham Young were discontinued and not by the will of Joseph Smith or the Deity that lives in heaven. They were discontinued by the will of Gordon B Hinckley (PR man), a liar and a false prophet.
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I'll just use Paul's response to me here and to enuma above to answer Runtu's personal attack on me on the page previous, and to make the point that needs to be made. I have never, as of yet, seen anything of intellectual substance come from Paul's keyboard. Nothing.
I have never seen him engage a TBM with anything approaching an ounce of civility. The lack of four letter words and vulgar sexual references in these two above posts are quite unexpected.
I stand by what I said before, that Paul is, in essence, a vulgar anti-Mormon stand-up comic. His inability to even approach an intellectually serious or scholarly discourse with enuma is simply the usual performance he delivers here, and based upon most of what I have experienced of him since I've been around these parts, I do not believe for a second that it is anything approaching purly scholarly or intellectual problems with the Book of Abraham that drove him from the Church and which drives him to act out on this board like a rebellious teenager trying to get past his parents and out of the house to smoke a joint
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
Paul Osborne wrote:The church will move away from itself according to its own will, Droopy. The temple penalties and blood oaths enjoyed by Brigham Young were discontinued and not by the will of Joseph Smith or the Deity that lives in heaven.
CFR that the temple penalties and blood oaths were not discontinued by the will of the Deity that lives in heaven.
Thanks in advance.
"We know when we understand: Almighty god is a living man"--Bob Marley
The church will move away from itself according to its own will, Droopy. The temple penalties and blood oaths enjoyed by Brigham Young were discontinued and not by the will of Joseph Smith or the Deity that lives in heaven. They were discontinued by the will of Gordon B Hinckley (PR man), a liar and a false prophet.
I'd ask you how you know any of this to be the case, but I suspect you already have it all worked out.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
Enuma, have you been through One Eternal Round yet? I just finished it last night, and I'd like to ask you for your general perspective on its contribution to the ongoing Book of Abraham debate.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
Droopy wrote:I'll just use Paul's response to me here and to enuma above to answer Runtu's personal attack on me on the page previous, and to make the point that needs to be made. I have never, as of yet, seen anything of intellectual substance come from Paul's keyboard. Nothing.
I have never seen him engage a TBM with anything approaching an ounce of civility. The lack of four letter words and vulgar sexual references in these two above posts are quite unexpected.
I thought it was more of a "board nanny" post than a personal attack. You mocked someone for saying he had experienced revelation. That is definitely "ass"-like behavior. I can only imagine how you would respond if someone mocked your personal revelation.
I call it like I see it, and you were definitely acting like an ass.
Enuma Elish wrote:I think it's probably more a reflection of our lay ministry, with Gospel Doctrine lessons proliferating non-sophisticated views as revealed truth.
So now you're blaming the local bishops and/or Gospel Doctrine teachers for the lack of substance and our unsophisticated views of revealed truth? Because we don't all have jobs that allow us to study our religion deeply enough to gain sophisticated views of revealed truth, like yourself?
Someone has to pay the tithing, so you can get paid, EE. Maybe you could try harder to not insult the hand that puts food on your table?
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
Runtu wrote:I call it like I see it, and you were definitely acting like an ass.
You realize, of course, that you insult asses when you compare them to Droopy?
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
zeezrom wrote: I have received revelation (personal to me) that Book of Abraham is unnecessary for human existence and simply a lie. Yeah, we might be able to find a couple of interesting sentences in there that could be interpreted in a way to encourage us to be better people, but that is it for me.
You received this through the light of Christ or the love of God that speaks to all mankind regardless of race, religion, sex, age, or even sexual orientation.
Listen to the voice deep within you that tells you to love others. That is the voice of God. The voice of Mormonism is lies and bondage to men who would subject others to themselves. Cursed be the apostles of Mormonism and apologists that support them.
PS. Don't forget to listen to Alice Cooper regularly.
Droopy wrote:Enuma, have you been through One Eternal Round yet? I just finished it last night, and I'd like to ask you for your general perspective on its contribution to the ongoing Book of Abraham debate.
Hey Brother. Alas, I've been really busy as of late, so I've have only made it through the first two chapters. The book raised several issues thus far that I had not yet considered. I look forward to finishing the whole thing later this summer.
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"We know when we understand: Almighty god is a living man"--Bob Marley