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Doing the math: work for the dead during millennium

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:18 pm
by _zeezrom
Here are my assumptions:

number of spirits waiting = 200,000,000,000
number of active, TR holding members willing and able to do the work = 4,000,000
spirits for each person = spirits / members = 50,000
amount of time to do the work for a single spirit = about 4 hours (b,c,i,e,s)
Assume each person does one spirit per day
To do the work for 50,000 spirits, it would take 137 years doing one per day. (spirits / 365 days)

I think the second coming will need to wait until we have about 15,000,000 TR holding members or some resurrected beings will need to assist.

Re: Doing the math: work for the dead during millennium

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:27 pm
by _Scottie
There is a flaw in your math.

The millennium will include resurrected beings, so your 15 million number is way low. Plus, each time an ordinance is done, and the spirit accepts, I would assume that he/she will be resurrected and participate in the temple ordinances for the rest of the souls. The number of temple goers will expand exponentially.

Plus, don't forget that those who have died before 8 don't need to have their work done. They are already saved.

Re: Doing the math: work for the dead during millennium

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:30 pm
by _zeezrom
Oh yeah. I forgot about the resurrected folks. Oops.

Re: Doing the math: work for the dead during millennium

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:47 pm
by _just me
Are there any scriptures or prophetic quotes about resurrected beings helping to do proxy work during the M? Cuz I don't think it's scriptural.

Plus, don't forget that those who have died before 8 don't need to have their work done. They are already saved.


Guess what? There are seriously TBM's who believe that children and unaccountable people WILL have to have ALL the temple ordinances (including marriage of course) done in order to receive Celestial Glory.

Re: Doing the math: work for the dead during millennium

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 3:29 am
by _Nimrod
Scottie wrote:There is a flaw in your math.

The millennium will include resurrected beings, so your 15 million number is way low. Plus, each time an ordinance is done, and the spirit accepts, I would assume that he/she will be resurrected and participate in the temple ordinances for the rest of the souls. The number of temple goers will expand exponentially.

Plus, don't forget that those who have died before 8 don't need to have their work done. They are already saved.


Are you talkin' the multi-level marketing of NuSkin?

Re: Doing the math: work for the dead during millennium

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 3:52 am
by _zeezrom
I also forgot about the fact that we have 1,000 years to find the names and do the work. phew! We'll be fine!

That reminds me... My Dad once mused out loud with me about how genealogy work will continue during the millennium. We concluded that some amazing science would be developed where names of people could be extracted from voices of the past... I came away from that thinking, "Nah, God will just give us the names."

This also reminds me of a time when my Dad mused out loud about the war in heaven. He asked what kind of weapons were used. I offered that maybe it was a war of words. That didn't sound too convincing to either of us...

Too bad he doesn't ask those questions any more. His testimony is too strong to venture that far away from the core gospel.

:)

Re: Doing the math: work for the dead during millennium

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 4:07 am
by _msnobody
Wouldn't you think that multiple LDS family members would duplicate baptism for the dead on the same ancestors or family members?

Re: Doing the math: work for the dead during millennium

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 9:57 am
by _Nightlion
zeezrom wrote:Here are my assumptions:

number of spirits waiting = 200,000,000,000
number of active, TR holding members willing and able to do the work = 4,000,000
spirits for each person = spirits / members = 50,000
amount of time to do the work for a single spirit = about 4 hours (b,c,i,e,s)
Assume each person does one spirit per day
To do the work for 50,000 spirits, it would take 137 years doing one per day. (spirits / 365 days)

I think the second coming will need to wait until we have about 15,000,000 TR holding members or some resurrected beings will need to assist.



I don't know who started this stupidity about doing EVERYONE's temple work. The only people who need a proxy work are those few souls who WOULD have received the gospel IF they had been given the OPPORTUNITY to hear it. You could probably count them on the head of one or two pins. The LDS Church is not suppose to do ordinances on spec. It is suppose to be by revelation. And it is ONLY suppose to be true saints doing these things. Precious few indeed.

The LDS are building up a GREAT WORK of utter nonsense after their own conceit, which is after the image and likeness of the world. Like a damn franchise or something, great business, expensive, huge overhead, great big temple industrial complex, fully Gentile, making your friends rich. An abomination.

Re: Doing the math: work for the dead during millennium

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 12:29 pm
by _Paul Osborne
I tend to agree with Nightlion.

Paul O

Re: Doing the math: work for the dead during millennium

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 3:53 pm
by _Tarski
Nightlion wrote:
I don't know who started this stupidity about doing EVERYONE's temple work. The only people who need a proxy work are those few souls who WOULD have received the gospel IF they had been given the OPPORTUNITY to hear it. You could probably count them on the head of one or two pins. The LDS Church is not suppose to do ordinances on spec. It is suppose to be by revelation. And it is ONLY suppose to be true saints doing these things. Precious few indeed.

Ya right. LOL
Look pal, if God is just going to look into our hearts or look into the future and see who would accept the gospel then he need not put us through all of this.
How about this: The only people who need to be challenged with the earthly test are the ones who would pass the test.


The LDS are building up a GREAT WORK of utter nonsense after their own conceit, which is after the image and likeness of the world. Like a damn franchise or something, great business, expensive, huge overhead, great big temple industrial complex, fully Gentile, making your friends rich. An abomination.


I know it is politically correct around here to humor you but I can't bring myself to do it.

I am going to guess that you are like one of those ranting guys on a street corner that wears a sign warning that the end is near. You probably failed both at worldly endeavors such as career and also did not become a church leader as you once envisioned. Then in a stroke of desperation rooted in ego you decide to invert everything and declare both the world and the church to be abominations while little old you are the undiscovered prophet and spiritual genius.

Defense mechanisms can be quite interesting.


(I am waiting for the denials and false modesty).