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Ray, I know disasters and earthquakes are not any more prevalent now than in the past. I am leaving paranoidBoyd room to maneuver for future talks.

All the disasters around are used by religions teachers of all stripes to make whatever point then need to get that weeks money in the coffers. LDS inc just has it down to a corporate game rather than a local believer trying to help people.

Ray, I know disasters and earthquakes are not any more prevalent now than in the past. I am leaving paranoidBoyd room to maneuver for future talks.

All the disasters around are used by religions teachers of all stripes to make whatever point then need to get that weeks money in the coffers. LDS inc just has it down to a corporate game rather than a local believer trying to help people.

Joseph wrote:All the disasters around are used by religions teachers of all stripes to make whatever point then need to get that weeks money in the coffers. LDS inc just has it down to a corporate game rather than a local believer trying to help people.

ha! like the mullah or whatever he was in iran saying that earthquakes were the fault of women who wear revealing clothes. (i'd love to see his idea of "revealing".)

as for the OP, my guess is that there has never been a generation on the earth the thought to itself, "man, the world is GREAT! things are at least as good if not better than they were when i was a kid." people see change as bad, generally, and things were always better in the good old days. i'm sure there are a number of factors that go into this, such as selective memory and what not. i see language change as a neat example of this (prob b/c i've studied linguistics). it has always and will always evolve, and the english you speak now will be considered to be stuffy in 50 years, and archaic in 150. intelligible? yes. but antiquated. yet people love to talk about how poorly people speak "these days" without recognizing that the old-timers thought the same thing when they were young.

The main thing I have learned from this thread is that perhaps I should remove Australia from its spot near the top of my "must go" list.

From the viewpoint of my own half century, I see society improving in very many ways, mainly regarding social justice and tolerance of others. I'm glad that the standard of living is rising for most humans. There is much room for improvement, but I think the future looks pretty positive.

krose wrote:The main thing I have learned from this thread is that perhaps I should remove Australia from its spot near the top of my "must go" list.

Before you get on your self-righteous horse, as an American (or English, or whatever you are), you should be the last one to make snide comments about violence in other countries. It's a worldwide problem, and the last time Australia had a mass killing was 1996. In that regard (and in many other ways), you're safer here.

Nine dead in 'race abuse' work shooting.

krose wrote:The main thing I have learned from this thread is that perhaps I should remove Australia from its spot near the top of my "must go" list. .

Ditto that, my brother. What a hell hole.

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Ditto that, my brother. What a hell hole.

Since you are a Mormon troll only here for "entertainment", you lost any credibility ages ago. No point taking anything you say seriously.

I would definitely go to Australia! I'd love to see the country, the kangaroos in the wild, the Barrier Reef, the Outback that I saw in the movie, Australia.

Totally a gorgeous place!

Oh, and I'd have lunch with Ray...

I can't think of any other era or place in history I would rather live. And that's as a middle-class white male.

If I had to choose another era in which to live and I had to be a woman, non-white, and/or poor, all bets are off.

So I wonder if it could be argued that young people respect other cultures more than the older generation while at the same time young people do not respect older people as much... I don't know.

It's not respect I see, it's the worship of diversity for it's own sake, rather than on the merits. BKP is right. Society is degenerating.