Out standing friend- out standing on temple grounds
Out standing friend- out standing on temple grounds
As one who has been born again, regenerated, trusts in Christ, just what is it that I would not be worthy of that would cause my friend to have to have me stand outside the temple as she/he weds?
"The Lord is near to all who call on him, to all who call on him in truth. He fulfills the desire of those who fear him; he also hears their cry and saves them.” Psalm 145:18-19 ESV
Re: Out standing friend- out standing on temple grounds
1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?
2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?
3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?
4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?
5 Do you live the law of chastity?
6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?
7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?
9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?
10 Are you a full-tithe payer?
11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?
12 Do you have financial or other oblgations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?
13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:
Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?
14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?
15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?
2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?
3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?
4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?
5 Do you live the law of chastity?
6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?
7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?
9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?
10 Are you a full-tithe payer?
11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?
12 Do you have financial or other oblgations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?
13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:
Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?
14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?
15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?
Re: Out standing friend- out standing on temple grounds
1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?
Yes.
2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?
Yes.
3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?
No.
4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?
No
5 Do you live the law of chastity?
Yes.
6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?
No.
7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
Yes, agree with.
8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?
Yes, except that it is not the LDS sacrament or meetings. Yes to strive to keep commandments of the gospel, but it is a different gospel. However, a gospel that ascribes worthiness and honor to Christ.
9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?
I strive to, but don't always succeed.
10 Are you a full-tithe payer?[/]
No.
[i]11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?[/]
Yes.
[i]12 Do you have financial or other oblgations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?
No such oblilgations.
13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:
Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?
No, I have not received any endowment.
14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?
Not LDS priesthood authorities, but in Christ the High Priest, Prophet, and King.
15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?[/quote]
No, but one day I will enter God's very presence based on Christ's worthiness and my Saviour is able to keep me from falling and present me spotless/blameless before God.
Yes.
2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?
Yes.
3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?
No.
4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?
No
5 Do you live the law of chastity?
Yes.
6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?
No.
7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
Yes, agree with.
8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?
Yes, except that it is not the LDS sacrament or meetings. Yes to strive to keep commandments of the gospel, but it is a different gospel. However, a gospel that ascribes worthiness and honor to Christ.
9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?
I strive to, but don't always succeed.
10 Are you a full-tithe payer?[/]
No.
[i]11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?[/]
Yes.
[i]12 Do you have financial or other oblgations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?
No such oblilgations.
13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:
Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?
No, I have not received any endowment.
14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?
Not LDS priesthood authorities, but in Christ the High Priest, Prophet, and King.
15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?[/quote]
No, but one day I will enter God's very presence based on Christ's worthiness and my Saviour is able to keep me from falling and present me spotless/blameless before God.
"The Lord is near to all who call on him, to all who call on him in truth. He fulfills the desire of those who fear him; he also hears their cry and saves them.” Psalm 145:18-19 ESV
Re: Out standing friend- out standing on temple grounds
16. Do you truly and humbly confess the supremacy of the brightest star on the FAIR horizon, William Schryver?
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Re: Out standing friend- out standing on temple grounds
You just answered your own question, msnobody. One or more "no"s to that list and you can't enter the temple.
Pretty simple, really.
Pretty simple, really.
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Re: Out standing friend- out standing on temple grounds
Even if you can answer yes to all the questions, if you are not a baptized member and(if male and of age) hold the higher priesthood, you can't be part of it.
"This is how INGORNAT these fools are!" - darricktevenson
Bow your head and mutter, what in hell am I doing here?
infaymos wrote: "Peterson is the defacto king ping of the Mormon Apologetic world."
Bow your head and mutter, what in hell am I doing here?
infaymos wrote: "Peterson is the defacto king ping of the Mormon Apologetic world."
Re: Out standing friend- out standing on temple grounds
Just a few snippets I read from an article on LDS.org
President Brigham Young said, “Your endowment is, to receive all those ordinances in the house of the Lord, which are necessary for you, after you have departed this life, to enable you to walk back to the presence of the Father, … and gain your eternal exaltation.” 8. Discourses of Brigham Young, sel. John A. Widtsoe (1941), 416.
Preparation also includes qualification for a temple recommend. Our Redeemer requires that His temples be protected from desecration. No unclean thing may enter His hallowed house.
Under President Gordon B. Hinckley’s inspired direction, temples are now more accessible than ever. Inscribed on each temple are the words “Holiness to the Lord.” 1 That statement designates both the temple and its purposes as holy. Those who enter the temple are also to bear the attribute of holiness.
How many Latter-day Saints are clean? Holy?
President Boyd K. Packer emphasized that “ordinances and covenants become our credentials for admission into [God’s] presence.
Ordinances of the temple relate to personal progress and to the redemption of departed ancestors as well. “For their salvation is necessary and essential to our salvation, … they without us cannot be made perfect—neither can we without our dead be made perfect.” 41 Service in their behalf provides repeated opportunities for temple worship. And that service deserves commitment to a planned schedule. By doing for others what they cannot do for themselves, we emulate the pattern of the Savior, who wrought the Atonement to bless the lives of other people.
I can see why LDS who leave the LDS church often become athiests.
President Brigham Young said, “Your endowment is, to receive all those ordinances in the house of the Lord, which are necessary for you, after you have departed this life, to enable you to walk back to the presence of the Father, … and gain your eternal exaltation.” 8. Discourses of Brigham Young, sel. John A. Widtsoe (1941), 416.
Preparation also includes qualification for a temple recommend. Our Redeemer requires that His temples be protected from desecration. No unclean thing may enter His hallowed house.
Under President Gordon B. Hinckley’s inspired direction, temples are now more accessible than ever. Inscribed on each temple are the words “Holiness to the Lord.” 1 That statement designates both the temple and its purposes as holy. Those who enter the temple are also to bear the attribute of holiness.
How many Latter-day Saints are clean? Holy?
President Boyd K. Packer emphasized that “ordinances and covenants become our credentials for admission into [God’s] presence.
Ordinances of the temple relate to personal progress and to the redemption of departed ancestors as well. “For their salvation is necessary and essential to our salvation, … they without us cannot be made perfect—neither can we without our dead be made perfect.” 41 Service in their behalf provides repeated opportunities for temple worship. And that service deserves commitment to a planned schedule. By doing for others what they cannot do for themselves, we emulate the pattern of the Savior, who wrought the Atonement to bless the lives of other people.
I can see why LDS who leave the LDS church often become athiests.
"The Lord is near to all who call on him, to all who call on him in truth. He fulfills the desire of those who fear him; he also hears their cry and saves them.” Psalm 145:18-19 ESV
Re: Out standing friend- out standing on temple grounds
Msnobody. Maybe you should go get a recommend. Is it really all that bad to say you believe in the restoration when you don't in the slightest? Think of it as an experiment. Maybe Jersey Girl will participate with you.
My my wife asked me to try an experiment of being tbm for a week and i agreed as long as she tries being atheist for the next week. It is all in the name of science and experimentation.
My my wife asked me to try an experiment of being tbm for a week and i agreed as long as she tries being atheist for the next week. It is all in the name of science and experimentation.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
The Holy Sacrament.
The Holy Sacrament.
Re: Out standing friend- out standing on temple grounds
zeezrom wrote:Msnobody. Maybe you should go get a recommend. Is it really all that bad to say you believe in the restoration when you don't in the slightest? Think of it as an experiment. Maybe Jersey Girl will participate with you.
My my wife asked me to try an experiment of being tbm for a week and i agreed as long as she tries being atheist for the next week. It is all in the name of science and experimentation.
I could not do that Zeezrom. I'd be denying Christ if I did.
"The Lord is near to all who call on him, to all who call on him in truth. He fulfills the desire of those who fear him; he also hears their cry and saves them.” Psalm 145:18-19 ESV
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Re: Out standing friend- out standing on temple grounds
1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?
Let them first prove to me that they exist and then I will have faith in them.
2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?
I have a testimony of myself. If someone wants to die for me that is their problem.
3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?
Hell no. The Mormon church is like Viet Nam -- a lost cause.
4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?
You mispelled the name of the church. The first word (The) must always be capitalized. Therefore, I refuse to answer the question.
5 Do you live the law of chastity?
I have both hands on the keyboard. . . .
6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?
Me in harmony with the teachings of the church? Ha ha!
7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
You mispelled the name of the church again. I refuse to answer the Goddamn question.
8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?
Hell no. I won't go!
9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?
Sure, would you like to make a buck?
10 Are you a full-tithe payer?
I wouldn't give a Goddmamn penny to The Church of Jesus Christ of rats & snakes.
11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?
Have you ever heard of Crown Royal Black?
12 Do you have financial or other oblgations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?
NA
13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:
Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?
I broke my covenants and stuffed my garments in the trash can like filthy rags.
14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?
Wouldn't you like to know?
15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?
Worthy? What does that mean?
Paul O
Let them first prove to me that they exist and then I will have faith in them.
2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?
I have a testimony of myself. If someone wants to die for me that is their problem.
3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?
Hell no. The Mormon church is like Viet Nam -- a lost cause.
4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?
You mispelled the name of the church. The first word (The) must always be capitalized. Therefore, I refuse to answer the question.
5 Do you live the law of chastity?
I have both hands on the keyboard. . . .
6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?
Me in harmony with the teachings of the church? Ha ha!
7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
You mispelled the name of the church again. I refuse to answer the Goddamn question.
8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?
Hell no. I won't go!
9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?
Sure, would you like to make a buck?
10 Are you a full-tithe payer?
I wouldn't give a Goddmamn penny to The Church of Jesus Christ of rats & snakes.
11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?
Have you ever heard of Crown Royal Black?
12 Do you have financial or other oblgations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?
NA
13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:
Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?
I broke my covenants and stuffed my garments in the trash can like filthy rags.
14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?
Wouldn't you like to know?
15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?
Worthy? What does that mean?
Paul O