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What did the Greeks have in mind with the words Celestial, Terrestrial and Telestial?


1 CORINTHIANS 15: 40
Also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial, and bodies telestial; but the glory of the celestial, one; and the terrestrial, another; and the telestial, another.


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Celestial is 1, where God is, 2, where the stars, moon...etc are, and 3. where the birds fly...Paul refered to # 1 as "the third heaven".

Terrestrial is simply of the earth...

Telestial is the root word for testical...meaning all those who believe this is a word are "nuts"!

moksha wrote:What did the Greeks have in mind with the words Celestial, Terrestrial and Telestial?


1 CORINTHIANS 15: 40
Also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial, and bodies telestial; but the glory of the celestial, one; and the terrestrial, another; and the telestial, another.


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Penguin,

I'm disappointed in you. You've misquoted the verse. Why?

:-(

Markk wrote:Telestial is the root word for testical...meaning all those who believe this is a word are "nuts"!

It's a mixture of a Greek root and a Latin suffix, which means it's not a word that comes from either lexicon, but it's a derived word that has been in use longer than "texting," "google," "Wi-fi," "airplane," or "internet." It's in common usage and it has a specific definition. It's a word. The emotions you associate with the demographic that most commonly uses the word really have no bearing on that.

To answer you question,

What did the Greeks have in mind with the words Celestial, Terrestrial and Telestial?

The Greeks didn't have anything in mind with regards to "Telestial". Joseph Smith made up the word and it appears nowhere in the New Testament.

maklelan wrote:

Markk wrote:Telestial is the root word for testical...meaning all those who believe this is a word are "nuts"!

It's a mixture of a Greek root and a Latin suffix, which means it's not a word that comes from either lexicon, but it's a derived word that has been in use longer than "texting," "google," "Wi-fi," "airplane," or "internet." It's in common usage and it has a specific definition. It's a word. The emotions you associate with the demographic that most commonly uses the word really have no bearing on that.

What Greek root?

Jersey Girl wrote:

moksha wrote:What did the Greeks have in mind with the words Celestial, Terrestrial and Telestial?


1 CORINTHIANS 15: 40
Also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial, and bodies telestial; but the glory of the celestial, one; and the terrestrial, another; and the telestial, another.


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Penguin,

I'm disappointed in you. You've misquoted the verse. Why?

:-(

You know, I didn't even bother checking it. It was posted on another LDS forum and I assumed it was accurate.

Here it is from the KJV after checking it:

King James Bible
There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

English Revised Version
There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

International Standard Version (©2008)
There are heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but the splendor of those in heaven is of one kind, and that of those on earth is of another.

The telestial part must have been added in from the LDS poster, unless of course, it is part of the Joseph Smith translation. Perhaps part of the Sun, Moon and Stars motif.

Were the words Celestial, Terrestrial and Telestial taken directly from the Greek (if indeed telestial is a Greek word) and it so, how did the Greeks define these words?

Any Greek scholars out there?

Markk wrote:What Greek root?

Telos. It means "completion," "maturity," "end," etc. That's how I view it, although it just as likely could constitute a conflation of "celestial" and "terrestrial." Whichever is the case, it's immaterial to the fact that, with common usage, it becomes a legitimate word in every sense of the word (no pun intended).

Maklelan, wouldn't the root word more likely be Tele which means distant or far away?

moksha wrote:Were the words Celestial, Terrestrial and Telestial taken directly from the Greek (if indeed telestial is a Greek word) and it so, how did the Greeks define these words?

Any Greek scholars out there?

-ial is a Latin suffix. Celestial and terrestrial are Latin words meaning "heavenly" and "earthly," respectively. The Greek uses the words epigeios, "on the earth" or "earthly," and epouranios, "on the heavens," or "heavenly."