Cassius Review of Books: "The Church and the Negro"

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EAllusion wrote:That reminds me.

Gad -

I recall that you were looking for an online location of Alvin R. Dyer's wonderfully racist mission conference talk.

Here you go:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/13500724/For-What-Purpose


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Thanks EA. When I was a TBM, I thoroughly believed in this talk.

As did everyone I ever met who read it.
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Regarding the discussion of Elijah Abel's case in The Church and the Negro, here is a photograph of Elijah Abel:

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I am of the opinion that it is historical truths like these that can define the apologist. What does one do with this kind of knowledge? Does one, knowing of such things, immediately seek to excuse them on the grounds that this was "not doctrine" and merely the "opinion" of these authors or speakers? Or does one own up to the fact that it was doctrinal and then express regret for this aspect of the LDS Church's past?

I think it is the part of the Mopologist to engage in semantic hair-splitting about the definitions of doctrine, etc. It takes an upright person to face the past squarely and deal with it.
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The blame obviously lies with the members who actually believed what they were being taught. They could have used their free agency and rejected these racist teachings. If they feel they were duped, too bad for them. They made their own bed.
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Who posted this on The Mormon Curtain?
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Darth J wrote:Who posted this on The Mormon Curtain?


Probably Infymus himself, whom I have seen popping in now and then.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Darth J wrote:Who posted this on The Mormon Curtain?


Probably Infymus himself, whom I have seen popping in now and then.


If that is the case, then I don't want anything by me posted on a polemical site without my permission.
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Buffalo,

Your post hurt my eyes, but made me laugh.
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