Scamming the Young Women

[_Willy Law]

Maybe some of you ladies that went through the YW program can chime in and agree or disagree with my wife and I.
We were having a conversation at lunch today about our wedding. Even in our TBM days we used to joke about what a horrible day it was. The only slot we could get in the assembly line that is the SLC temple wedding machine was 8AM. Which means we had to be at the temple at 6AM. Neither of us are morning people and it made for a groggy morning that got worse as the morning went on.

Anyway we started talking about how that temple wedding is built up to the YW from the time they are 12. They are indoctrinated to believe that their temple wedding will surpass any wedding they could imagine outside of the temple. To us this is a complete scam.
Most of these girls have been to civil weddings and seen how beautiful they are and what a special day it is for the bride, their families and friends. They are then told how much more wonderful their wedding will be inside the temple. We estimated that 90% of women married in the temple have never seen a sealing before, they really have no idea what they are in for and take their leaders words as gospel that it is far and away more special than a civil wedding.
Then they arrive at the temple at 6AM, too tired to comprehend what is going on. They are dressed in strange clothes and escorted into room where their husband to be is dressed like the bastard child of a masonic french baker.
The ceremony itself is devoid of any expression of love or affection for your spouse, instead you are given some instruction by some old guy dressed in white that neither of you know and then you answer yes to something read directly from D&C.
This is a classic bait and switch. For now these YW are magic underwear wearing members of the masonic endowment club. The day most of them have been dreaming of becomes, like my wife, just a blur of confusion and let downs that you cannot discuss with anyone.
Ladies, please put in my line if I am overstating.

[_truth dancer]

As a convert...

I got married in the LDS temple without any family members or loved ones present (other than my DH, smile). No beautiful music. No nice poetry. No friends. Just an older gentleman who had never met us giving us his personal advice, a few of my husbands relatives, and twenty minutes of ritual.

To this day it is one of the biggest regrets of my life.

I dishonored my parents. While they were supportive, I still have a difficult time forgiving myself for this cruelty I inflicted on them.

in my opinion, a wedding should be a time for loved ones to come together to share in a joyous occasion. In the LDS church, it is a time for exclusion, for elitism, for dishonor, and nonsense.

The LDS church, aside from not allowing anyone but the elite members (those who pay), view a wedding, it also does not allow children or those with intellectual disabilities to view the wedding of their family members. It is nothing but shameful.

Rant over.

~td~

[_Willy Law]

, and twenty minutes of ritual.

Ah yes, forgot the best part. I have never been "kindly" escorted so quickly out of a room in my entire life. I specifically remember not even being allowed to shake the hands of those that came inside for the ceremony.

Truth Dancer, I really feel for you.
I recently had an employee that converted and married in the temple.
Her poor Mom was heartbroken that she could not see her only daughter get married.

[_Lucinda]

I had a few friends, much smarter than me, who got married in the temple and then had beautiful ring ceremonies later that were much like traditional ceremonies. If my children choose to stay Mormon and want to get married in the temple, I hope they'll add something like that so I can participate. It will break my heart to just sit outside the temple.

[_zeezrom]

I look forward to the day my kids get married on the beach, in a big Cathedral, or under some trees somewhere. That would be a really cool wedding.

[_why me]

Ladies, please put in my line if I am overstating.

This is one of the complainer and bitcher posts that I mentioned on a different thread. Of course, you are now disappointed because you are no longer a member of the LDS church. So, it becomes an easy target for you. The wedding day is usually a stressful day no matter where one is married and in what church one is married. The LDS have a simple precedure that does not have a lot of fanfare inside. But the meaning of the ceremony is one of celebration since the couple are promising to be together for time and all eternity. And that is basically the point.

And as one poster has commented, there is nothing wrong with having a ring ceremony afterwards. Or having a justice of peace marry the couple once more after the temple ceremony.

[_why me]

I look forward to the day my kids get married on the beach, in a big Cathedral, or under some trees somewhere. That would be a really cool wedding.

Sounds good. Lets hope that they choose this kind of wedding. It is up to them after all. Now to be married in a catholic cathedral they should be catholic. I am sure that it is the same for other denominations. But the beach sounds nice. Of course zee, before your apostacy you had hoped for a temple wedding where they could be sealed for time and all eternity. But...times change.

My own choice for my children would be an enlopement to vegas where they would be married in a nice ceremony. I would save a ton of money.

[_harmony]

For my sons and daughter who were married in the temple, we had at most 20 people who could attend. The groom's parents couldn't attend. Neither could my daughter's disabled grandmother.

For my sons who were married outside the temple (two of them in the church building and one in a garden), we had over 100 people attend. Nonmember parents, grandmothers, and family members, as many ward members as wanted to come, neighbors, co-workers, and their young siblings were able to see and enjoy their weddings.

One more to go. No bets so far as to where that marriage will take place.

[_Joseph]

Keep telling yourself how great LDS exclusionary policies of Temple marriage are as you read 'familes are forever' over and over and over again.

Nothing says Loving like telling your relatives they aren't 'worthy' to witness your marriage.

[_Paul Osborne]

Welcome to the Mormon CULT. Now, please take off your underwear and follow instructions.



Do you swear to obey the prophet?

Do you swear to give the General Authorities 1/10 of your income?

Do you swear to waste your lives for the cause of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

Welcome to the kingdom -- suckers.



Paul O