Sexism

[_Lucinda]

Z--lol!!! I just may do that!! This exit from the church journey has shown me that I have a lot more courage than I ever thought possible!

[_Lucinda]

So, Zee... and any other parent who is faking belief, or on the fence, if you do nothing else please do not allow your girls to go through the "interview."

~td~

In addition, in my opinion, it is not healthy for a marriage to have a woman discussing her private sex life or choice of underwear, with a neighbor man who claims authority over her. It is equally unhealthy for a man to discuss his marriage and sex life with neighbor guys.

Amen and amen!!!!! Well said!

[_zeezrom]

So, Zee... and any other parent who is faking belief, or on the fence, if you do nothing else please do not allow your girls to go through the "interview."

~td~

In addition, in my opinion, it is not healthy for a marriage to have a woman discussing her private sex life or choice of underwear, with a neighbor man who claims authority over her. It is equally unhealthy for a man to discuss his marriage and sex life with neighbor guys.

Just keeping it real! :-)

I agree. Not only is it unhealthy for a man to discuss his sex life with the neighbor guys but maybe he shouldn't discuss it with a woman in a room with the door closed like women are expected to do with the bish.

So let me ask you this: Someone I know once told me our conversations about G's with priesthood leaders are not the same as talking about "underwear" because G's are not personal/sexual but rather spiritual things. They are discussed in the sense that the WoW is discussed. It is just an ordinance and worthiness oriented issue, not necessarily a private one. Would you agree? I would have agreed about that as a TBM but not now. Underwear is underwear. It is the garment you wear under your clothes against your skin. It is something that is personal unless you have been brought up to think it is not. Damn church making us think crazy stuff. aaarrrggg.

by the way Truth Dancer, my fence is getting really wobbly these days. It is almost time! I will soon be able to say, "keeping it real" like you and Lucinda do very soon.

[_zeezrom]

Now I do wear a different brand of panties to bed. Would you like to know about those?"

Um... a small correction: Nothing to bed. There's no point.

Well, I'm sure that's how Adam and Eve did it. I highly doubt they wore those leather vest things like you see in the temple to bed!! Have you ever wondered how long it would take for Adam and Eve to make their clothing (to cover their nakedness) as shown in the Temple movie? All that time making those leather vests in the buff. I wonder if Adam was having a hard time concentrating on the leather tanning process... "Adam! Eyes on your work fool! You just wore a hole in the little cap sleeve of my vest because you are rubbing the rock in the same place over and over!"

"But Eve, you keep rocking back and forth and it just looks so exciting... I mean ever since I bit that apple everything is going crazy!"

"Well, you ruined my cap sleeve! Now my upper arm will be exposed you nut!"

[_DarkHelmet]

Next time the bishop wants to talk about your garments, say "I have a question about my garments. How do I remove blood stains from the crotch?"

[_Polygamy-Porter]

After listening to a bit of conference today, I can't stop thinking about how I totally missed how sexist the Mormon church is. I was one of those that thought women are so blessed to have children and be nurturers, it doesn't matter that the men have the priesthood and lead this church. Heavenly mother is so sacred, that's why we don't talk about her. And on and on......
You are not going to believe this--of my best friends went for her stake-level TR interview last year. The dude asked her if she wears her g's night and day. She replied that she tries. He said to her:"you are not to remove the garment unless a priesthood holder tells you it's ok.". Unbelievable. Is that really how Mormons want to raise their daughters? I never want my daughter to hear a line like that. I'm not demanding Mormons give women the priesthood, they are too steeped in their traditions from the 1800s. I'm just saying I'm soooo glad to be pulling away from an organization that doesn't give women enough value. I'll get off my soap box now. Thanks for listening.

The sexism is expected and allowed by the women and men.

A friends mother lost her TR one year only after having for about six months, so it was still "valid" and she thought she would just ask to get a new one.

NOPE. The egomaniac bishop decided that she needed to bear her testimony about temple work to him in his office BEFORE he would give her a replacement.

Of course she did as he asked and no, her husband did not kick the guy in the balls for being such a prick.

[_Polygamy-Porter]

The Stake level interview was out of line. The guy who said it is a jerk. But that is only one guy. Also, this friend could have issued a complaint. I have never heard of such reasoning about only a priesthood holder can tell women to remove their garments.

However, why be critical of the entire church? It would be like me being critical of the entire catholic church because something the priest said. It would be crazy for me to do so.

Thinking like an internet Mormon?

This friend of Lucinda's is obviously a chapel Mormon.

This is where your complete inactivity really shows.

These women BELIEVE that these leaders are placed there by GOD himself and since they are still in that position, anything they do, say, or request must be from GOD. They have also been told to believe that these men are the representative for their stake or ward(bishop).

I think that this is why it takes much longer for abusive LDS leaders to be removed. Because the members are expected to trust them unconditionally.

[_Polygamy-Porter]

I've decided to take advantage of my priesthood power and tell my wife to take off any garment(s) at will. In fact, I think I'll confer the priesthood on her so she can take it all off whenever she wishes.

Tell her if she obeys your command to take off her garmies that you will allow her to hold your priesthood.

[_Yoda]

I've decided to take advantage of my priesthood power and tell my wife to take off any garment(s) at will. In fact, I think I'll confer the priesthood on her so she can take it all off whenever she wishes.

Tell her if she obeys your command to take off her garmies that you will allow her to hold your priesthood.

ROTFLMAO!

[_truth dancer]

So let me ask you this: Someone I know once told me our conversations about G's with priesthood leaders are not the same as talking about "underwear" because G's are not personal/sexual but rather spiritual things. They are discussed in the sense that the WoW is discussed. It is just an ordinance and worthiness oriented issue, not necessarily a private one. Would you agree?

No, I would not agree. A neighbor man should not, under any circumstances ask a married woman what she is wearing under her clothing. It is completely inappropriate. Seriously, who thinks this is OK?

This craziness. Anyone who steps back for a second can realize that this is bizarre and complete insanity.

It is weird that women are indoctrinated to believe this is appropriate and it is even weirder that husbands go along with a guy discussing his wife's choice of underwear with her. I mean REALLY....

~td~